NL 10 ... je call v poriadku ?
Stage #C322546809: Holdem No Limit $0.10 - 2011-01-09 12:33:58 (ET)
Table: CEDAR AVE (Real Money) Seat #2 is the dealer
Seat 2 - DACUNHA ($4.60 in chips)
Seat 3 - MAIL_GIRL65 ($18.95 in chips)
Seat 4 - GR33S ($10.51 in chips)
Seat 5 - LOKOSEKO ($15.30 in chips)
Seat 6 - BARON777 ($9.20 in chips)
Seat 7 - SN3QBO8B ($10 in chips)
Seat 8 - MKS0923 ($9.54 in chips)
Seat 9 - FRAZIER2003 ($8.35 in chips)
Seat 1 - MICHAELA91 ($12.52 in chips)
MAIL_GIRL65 - Posts small blind $0.05
GR33S - Posts big blind $0.10
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to GR33S [Kh Kc]
LOKOSEKO - Folds
BARON777 - Folds
SN3QBO8B - Raises $0.30 to $0.30
MKS0923 - Calls $0.30
FRAZIER2003 - Folds
MICHAELA91 - Folds
DACUNHA - Folds
MAIL_GIRL65 - Calls $0.25
GR33S - Raises $1.40 to $1.50
SN3QBO8B - Folds
MKS0923 - Folds
MAIL_GIRL65 - Calls $1.20
*** FLOP *** [8d 4h 10d]
MAIL_GIRL65 - Checks
GR33S - Bets $2.10
MAIL_GIRL65 - Raises $9.90 to $9.90
GR33S - All-In $6.91
MAIL_GIRL65 - returned ($0.89) : not called
*** TURN *** [8d 4h 10d] [6s]
*** RIVER *** [8d 4h 10d 6s] [Jh]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
MAIL_GIRL65 - Shows [10h 10c] (Three of a kind, tens)
GR33S - Shows [Kh Kc] (One pair, kings)
MAIL_GIRL65 Collects $20.54 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total Pot($21.62) | Rake ($1.08)
Board [8d 4h 10d 6s Jh]
Seat 1: MICHAELA91 Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 2: DACUNHA (dealer) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 3: MAIL_GIRL65 (small blind) won Total ($20.54) HI:($20.54) with Three of a kind, tens [10h 10c - P:10h,B:10d,P:10c,B:Jh,B:8d]
Seat 4: GR33S (big blind) HI:lost with One pair, kings [Kh Kc - P:Kh,P:Kc,B:Jh,B:10d,B:8d]
Seat 5: LOKOSEKO Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 6: BARON777 Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 7: SN3QBO8B Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 8: MKS0923 Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 9: FRAZIER2003 Folded on the POCKET CARDS
.... Chcem sa vas spytat na vas nazor ci je to zahrate OK...hlavne ze ci je ten call ok .... stats supera : Vp 28 PR:7 ..73 hands
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12.01.2011 15:26 | matiapag
ok, to som rad 
gl
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12.01.2011 15:07 | Topolman
Myslim ze tymto to mozme uzavret. Ja totiz niesom CG hrac, len ma uz dlhsiu dobu zaujimala podobna situacia ako tato a celkom fajne si mi to priblizil... thx [reagovať]
12.01.2011 14:24 | matiapag
tak som k tej range pridal este AKs/AKo a dostali sme 43%, co je uz fit. Musime mat ale najskor read, ze super je schopny nieco take spravit. Asi na to potrebujeme rega, s ktorym mame divoku historiu Ak aj to nebude bluffovat 100% casu, aj tak este tych 40% tam mat budeme, ked niektore AK kombinacie vyhodime, ale je to aj tak dost tesne, v kazdom pripade ale +EV.
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12.01.2011 10:42 | matiapag
No cisto matematicky sa to da, daj do pokerstove tu nizsie spominanu range a pridavaj bluffy, kym nedostanes equity aspon 40%.. nebude treba tych bluffov vela, ale treba sa zamysliet, co tam moze bluffovat a ako casto. najskor to budu overkarty, asi A-high primary.. nie som pri pc, potom to nahadzem do pokerstove, ked pridem domov
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12.01.2011 01:29 | Topolman
no vidim ze pocitas ze super nebude blafovat... Cisto matematicky by sa nedalo urcit ze kolko % superovej range by museli byt bluffy aby to bol dobry call? Inak diky za predoslu odpoved 
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11.01.2011 21:49 | matiapag
tam v tej zatvorke ma byt (6,9/15,7>37) som najskor zle zratal pot a toto som potom uz neopravil [reagovať]
11.01.2011 21:48 | matiapag
tak to je uloha pre pokerstove by som povedal... pretoze ak je tam desina, tak porazame zo superovej range iba JJ-QQ, co je 12 kombinacii, pricom super tam ma v range vela desin - JTs,QTs,KT,AT. To mame dokopy 20 kombinacii. To nam dava cca 37%-nu equity, pricom my tu dorovnavame 6,9$ do 15,7$ potu cca, cize tych 37% nam nestaci (7/15>0,37). Ak by sme aj zlepsili sizing, tzn. PF raise na 1,80$, na flope mame pot 4,2$, ale TTx nebudeme asi cbetovat az tak vela, ako na T84ss, cize odds by sme si nezlepsili.
Stackoval by som sa tu v pripade, ze mam AA, to mam v tomto spote cca 51% equity, co mi staci. Alebo by super musel byt viac tight s PF range cosi ako 88+, ATs+, AQo+, KQ, to tu ma v range iba dve desiny+TT a zvysok su overpary, z ktorych nas bije iba AA, ktore je aj tak unlikely.
Vsetko to bolo samozrejme v pripade, ze mame board TTx r
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11.01.2011 17:46 | Topolman
matiapag, ako by si to hral keby bol vyvoj taky isty, len miesto 8d na flope by bola dalsia desina?tj no draws... stackoval by si sa ajtak? [reagovať]
10.01.2011 19:22 | matiapag
no PF by som raisoval este viac. Standard 3x+1x za kazdeho hraca v spote (okrem original raisora)+1x za OOP = 0,90$+0,60$+0,30=1,80$, dost nam to ulahci rozhodovanie po flope. Na takomto flope betujem 3/4-pot, pretoze je draw heavy + kazdy overpar sa s nami asi bude stackovat, cize na flope je v pote 3,60$, ja betujem 3$ a na jeho raise instacall. Bude nam to robit s roznymi draws mozno aj (aky bol agresivny? tie jeho staty su dost fishy), s kazdym overparom, niekedy mozno aj s TP, cize jeho range bijeme masivne. [reagovať]