Aj 3 percenta su sanca...
Full Tilt Poker Game #5542079215: Table Coral Springs - $0.05/$0.10 - No Limit Hold'em - 19:09:09 ET - 2008/03/07
Seat 1: Shiny123 ($3.90)
Seat 2: Pincell2 ($11.35)
Seat 3: alberto18 ($2.10)
Seat 4: JackzOffSuit ($3.80)
Seat 5: Magic_DuveL ($9.90)
Seat 6: txBoot ($14.50)
Seat 7: TheGoodRevE ($4.45)
Seat 8: settecba ($7.55)
Seat 9: KantCeemE ($7.90)
KantCeemE posts the small blind of $0.05
Shiny123 posts the big blind of $0.10
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Pincell2 [4d 4c]
Pincell2 calls $0.10
alberto18 calls $0.10
JackzOffSuit calls $0.10
Magic_DuveL folds
txBoot folds
TheGoodRevE folds
settecba raises to $0.60
KantCeemE folds
Shiny123 folds
Pincell2 calls $0.50
alberto18 calls $0.50
JackzOffSuit folds
*** FLOP *** [Ad Th 4s]
Pincell2 bets $1
alberto18 folds
settecba raises to $2.50
Pincell2 raises to $4
settecba raises to $6.95, and is all in
Pincell2 calls $2.95
settecba shows [As Qh]
Pincell2 shows [4d 4c]
*** TURN *** [Ad Th 4s] [Jd]
*** RIVER *** [Ad Th 4s Jd] [Ks]
settecba shows a straight, Ace high
Pincell2 shows three of a kind, Fours
settecba wins the pot ($14.40) with a straight, Ace high
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $15.95 | Rake $1.55
Board: [Ad Th 4s Jd Ks]
Seat 1: Shiny123 (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 2: Pincell2 showed [4d 4c] and lost with three of a kind, Fours
Seat 3: alberto18 folded on the Flop
Seat 4: JackzOffSuit folded before the Flop
Seat 5: Magic_DuveL didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: txBoot didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: TheGoodRevE didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: settecba (button) showed [As Qh] and won ($14.40) with a straight, Ace high
Seat 9: KantCeemE (small blind) folded before the Flop
Diskusia k partii
08.03.2008 20:06 | chipfeeder
ja si zase myslim, ze to bol v pohode call od pincella . toto by som zavolal aj ja zakazdym. nemusis hrat na set, staci hrat nato, ze tvojim superom nedolezie nic a ze nemaju vyssi par. dost casto sa stava, ze drzia spolocnu kartu a najcastejsie maju obaja Ax.
toto sa da kludne odohrat podla situacie na stole a podla vysky betov az do showdownu aj bez setu
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08.03.2008 19:31 | Pincell
Uz som si to stihol najst inde
ale dakujem
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08.03.2008 19:30 | keso26
http://www.pokerportal.sk/pokrova-partia/427/jj-vs-98
tu sa o tom dozvies nieco viac 
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08.03.2008 19:28 | keso26
..je pravda, ze toto je vzhladom na hole cards hracov asi najlepsi flop pre pinncella, ziadne draws, super ma najvyssi par so slusnym kikrom, parada, flop ako tento zase az tak casto nechodi, to ale nic nemeni na tom, co som tu uz popisal predtym
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08.03.2008 19:21 | Pincell
Ide o to ze ten typek raisoval kazdu hru s hovadinami a chcel som to skusit..inemu by som call urcite nedal..mozes mi presne vysvetlit ako si vypocital to ze to nebol spravny call a o co presne ide?pocujem to prvy krat. [reagovať]
08.03.2008 19:07 | chipfeeder
ale kolkokrat ti pride na nizky par takyto optimalny flop?
toto by sa tazko skladalo aj mne a myslim, ze kazdemu.
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08.03.2008 18:47 | keso26
a aby som aj ja zamudroval, ked uz sa tolko o tom bavime v inej pokrovej partii, pf to nebol spravny call, kedze 0,6x20=12USD u vas oboch co sa vysky stacku tyka a kedze on mal len 7,55 tak z dlhodobeho hladiska je tento call nevyhodny.
Na druhu stranu, to ze si ho dostal do all-inu uz na flope Ta aj ked to znie paradoxne, moze tesit, ze na flope si bol obrovsky favorit a tu si to zahral spravne a v dlasich podobnych situaciach niekolkokrat budes vitazom prave Ty, 1 bed beat nic neznamena, od toho je BM, kde sice nad stratou 1 max. buy-inu trochu zanadavas, ale mas ich dalsich min. 20 nachystanych do dalsieho boja
chipfeeder - tak vidis, ako lahko dostanes niekoho do all-inu uz na flope, ked sa za ziadnu cenu nechce vzdat svojho najvyssieho paru
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08.03.2008 18:28 | APminer
nejak zahadne se to odeslalo 3x
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08.03.2008 18:27 | APminer
proste je jedno, jastli 1,5% nabo 3,5% - ZRUŠIT RIVER [reagovať]
08.03.2008 18:27 | APminer
proste je jedno, jastli 1,5% nabo 3,5% - ZRUŠIT RIVER [reagovať]
08.03.2008 18:27 | APminer
proste je jedno, jastli 1,5% nabo 3,5% - ZRUŠIT RIVER [reagovať]
08.03.2008 18:07 | chipfeeder
akurat, ze pincella neporazala iba postupka, ale aj ine vyssie fullhousy a pokre, takze to tych cca 3,5 percenta moze kludne byt.
ale aj toto cislo znamena nevidane stastie pre supera.
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08.03.2008 17:46 | dexterXXL
jednoduchy vzorec:
(outs/unseen cards) * (outs/unseen cards)
tzn. pocet outs ktore mi SKUTOCNE pomahaju delene kariet ktore nevidim
napr. backdoor straight ako v tomto pripade:
Turn 8 outs
River 4 outs
(8/47) * (4/46) = pravdepodobnost ze mi pride postupka
ps. kebyze nahodou nesli kalkulacky je to 1,5 % ))
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08.03.2008 13:32 | 7castle
Allin bol na flope, tam mal super 3.54%... Na turne mal uz 9, ale to je jedno...
Wizdo tie kombinacie vsetky musia byt prave take, takze su runner-runner... www.cardplayer.com napr.
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08.03.2008 13:25 | wizdo
aby vyhral muselo prist AT,AQ,AA,QQ,KJ,TT a tam tych kombinacii je slusne...neverim ze su to 3 percenta...minimalne sak pocitat outy z turnu na river 1 out = 1,92% a na river mal 4 outy....
no proste si nemylsim ze aml aj ked po flope len 3 %
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08.03.2008 12:53 | Pincell
Na flope mal tri percenta...na flope sa predsa slo all in [reagovať]
08.03.2008 12:34 | Adrian15
preboha to ako ti vysli 3 % ? sak mal 4 outov [reagovať]
08.03.2008 12:11 | APminer
podobne jsem vcera vyletel z turnaje na Full - ja JJ on AQ preflop Allin - flop mal J K, mala, a river T
takze celkem normalni vydrb 
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08.03.2008 01:44 | Pincell
Jedine co ma tesi ze som to z toho typka vytiahol vsetko spat... [reagovať]