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Pridal: Pepi, 30.07.2008 19:04

Dve partie s jednym hracom v jednom SnG. Tato prva ma vyradila:

PokerStars Game #19221650650: Tournament #98961842, $3.00+$0.40 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2008/07/30 - 12:55:09 (ET)
Table '98961842 1' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 4: Itachi414 (6200 in chips)
Seat 6: Pepi_SK (1995 in chips)
Seat 8: Beenieman84 (5305 in chips)
Itachi414: posts small blind 100
Pepi_SK: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Pepi_SK [Kh Jc]
Beenieman84: folds
Itachi414: raises 200 to 400
Pepi_SK: calls 200
*** FLOP *** [4h Qh 9c]
Itachi414: checks
Pepi_SK: bets 400
Itachi414: calls 400
*** TURN *** [4h Qh 9c] [Td]
Itachi414: checks
Pepi_SK: bets 600
Itachi414: raises 600 to 1200
Pepi_SK: calls 595 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (5) returned to Itachi414
*** RIVER *** [4h Qh 9c Td] [Ts]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Itachi414: shows [Qc Qd] (a full house, Queens full of Tens)
Pepi_SK: shows [Kh Jc] (a straight, Nine to King)
Itachi414 collected 3990 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3990 | Rake 0
Board [4h Qh 9c Td Ts]
Seat 4: Itachi414 (small blind) showed [Qc Qd] and won (3990) with a full house, Queens full of Tens
Seat 6: Pepi_SK (big blind) showed [Kh Jc] and lost with a straight, Nine to King
Seat 8: Beenieman84 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Par hier predtym usiel hrobarovy z lopaty:

PokerStars Game #19221515062: Tournament #98961842, $3.00+$0.40 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (75/150) - 2008/07/30 - 12:48:01 (ET)
Table '98961842 1' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: bluedp (1775 in chips)
Seat 2: 666_bart_666 (2425 in chips)
Seat 4: Itachi414 (550 in chips)
Seat 6: Pepi_SK (2845 in chips)
Seat 8: Beenieman84 (5905 in chips)
Pepi_SK: posts small blind 75
Beenieman84: posts big blind 150
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Pepi_SK [Kc Kd]
bluedp: folds
666_bart_666: calls 150
Itachi414: raises 400 to 550 and is all-in
Pepi_SK: raises 2295 to 2845 and is all-in
Beenieman84: folds
666_bart_666: folds
Uncalled bet (2295) returned to Pepi_SK
*** FLOP *** [2d Js 8d]
*** TURN *** [2d Js 8d] [8s]
*** RIVER *** [2d Js 8d 8s] [9c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Pepi_SK: shows [Kc Kd] (two pair, Kings and Eights)
Itachi414: shows [Tc Qc] (a straight, Eight to Queen)
Itachi414 collected 1400 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1400 | Rake 0
Board [2d Js 8d 8s 9c]
Seat 1: bluedp folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: 666_bart_666 folded before Flop
Seat 4: Itachi414 (button) showed [Tc Qc] and won (1400) with a straight, Eight to Queen
Seat 6: Pepi_SK (small blind) showed [Kc Kd] and lost with two pair, Kings and Eights
Seat 8: Beenieman84 (big blind) folded before Flop

Jak moze mat dakto take stastie! Inak, on ten turnaj nakoniec vyhral.
To je v riti. Posrata herna ta Pokerstars. To je tazky brutal, co mi za poslednych 15 SnG tato kokotina pripravila. Horko tazko az 2 tretie miesta. To som si ani nezasluzil. To je skratka raj stastnych idiotov.

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31.07.2008 17:08 | chipfeeder

ked si s allinom uz vnutorne vyrovnany podla sily svojej ruky, tak je predsa jedno, ci to pushnes na flope, na turne alebo na rivri. vysledok partie bude taky isty. to pravidlo o 10 BB stacku predsa neplati celoplosne. v 95 % situacii hras push kvoli fold equity. v nasom pripade si neviem predstavit hraca, ktory by reraise allin foldol. jedine ak by isiel kradnut blindy cistym blafom.

suhlasim s barinom, ze takyto donkraise je nebezpecny a prave preto stacilo pomerne lacno sa pozriet na flop s pomerne silnou rukou a zostal by ti este hratelny stack. ja si dokonca myslim, ze aj keby ta minul flop uplne a dal by si allin, tak by mal vacsiu silu ako pred flopom. super by sa musel obavat, ze ta rozpravkovo trafil flop aj s monster rukou. myslim to vseobecne, lebo v nasom pripade mal na flope super nuts , takze toto by nefoldol nikto na svete

callom si na rozdiel od allinu nechavas este zadne dvierka a ty sa tej moznosti pri gamblovani dobrovolne vzdavas a nechavas to na hviezdy [reagovať]

31.07.2008 00:29 | Sunwu

a s cim teda chces ist all-in, ked zostali posledni traja? Ved platis blind v 2/3 ruk a ked budes dorovnavat minbety tak ti po chvili nepomozu ani AA [reagovať]

30.07.2008 20:26 | Barin

U teba to mozno bolo zahrane bezchybne, to nic nemeni na tom, ze u mna pri stacku 10x BB existuju len dve akcie all in alebo fold. Ak by som mal pocit, ze len stealuje tak to tam supnem a zase na druhej strane toto bol evidentne donkminiraise znamenajuci casto silnu kombinaciu pretoze nikto kto vie aspon ako tak priemerne hrat sng neda zo small blindu minraise ked je pred nim clovek s 10x BB jedine ak si naozaj call zela. Mozno, ze mas na sng lepsie vysledky ale ja sa nestazujem. Ak sa ti chce jednoducho si mozes overit co bol korektny play v sngwizardovi aj ked pochybujem, ze budes schopny presne urcit jeho opening range a nasledne calling range all inu. Ale call to s 10 BB stackom isto nebude. [reagovať]

30.07.2008 20:03 | chipfeeder

ostanu posledni 3 a ty chces foldnut na BB KJ pri 2BB bete? gebuzina. allin je takisto gebuzina. naco gamblovat, ked ti aj po dorovnani ostane hratelny stack?

pepi to zahral presne tak, ako by som hral aj ja. aj s tym betom. ten nebol kvoli gutshot, ale kvoli fold equity. u mna to bolo zahrane bezchybne [reagovať]

30.07.2008 19:30 | Barin

Je pravda, ze tie Kcka si prehral smolne ale to sa stava, tu druhu partiu si si prehral sam, mozno ze si uz tiltoval. Callovat minraise( v podstate akykolvek raise) ked mas 10x BB je hlupost, mal si ist all in alebo foldnut. Tak isto nechapem preco si prvy betol ked si mal len gutshot, stacilo checknut a na jeho bet polozit ked uz si sa do tej partie pustil. [reagovať]