mal som to betnut na flope????

OMAHA_HI, POT_LIMIT, P4-71096380-166
played at "Chiang Mai" for USD RM from 2008-07-01 11:42 until 2008-07-01 11:44
Seat 1: 186018601 ($184.10 in chips)
Seat 2: Fr3ier ($95.90 in chips)
Seat 3: SlTTING OUT ($51.75 in chips)
Seat 4: XCM06 ($89 in chips)
Seat 5: zemanova ($59.65 in chips)
Seat 6: Megafisher ($198.05 in chips)
Seat 7: wizdo ($26 in chips)
Seat 8: aurelio53 ($80.45 in chips)
Seat 9: -LonelyWolf- ($17 in chips)
Seat 10: Rapsi1 ($29 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
zemanova posts blind ($1), Megafisher posts blind ($1).

PRE-FLOP
wizdo calls $1, aurelio53 calls $1, -LonelyWolf- folds, Rapsi1 folds, 186018601 calls $1, Fr3ier folds, SlTTING OUT folds, XCM06 calls $1, zemanova checks, Megafisher checks.

FLOP [board cards: TC,JS,8C ]
zemanova checks, Megafisher checks, wizdo checks, aurelio53 checks, 186018601 checks, XCM06 checks.

TURN [board cards: TC,JS,8C,KD ]
zemanova checks, Megafisher checks, wizdo bets $3, aurelio53 folds, 186018601 folds, XCM06 calls $3, zemanova bets $18, Megafisher folds, wizdo bets $22 and is all-in, XCM06 calls $22, zemanova calls $7.

RIVER [board cards: TC,JS,8C,KD,QH ]
zemanova bets $10, XCM06 bets $30, zemanova bets $23.65 and is all-in, XCM06 calls $3.65.

SHOWDOWN
zemanova shows [ AS,4S,QC,8D ]
wizdo shows [ QD,9S,2C,AC ]
XCM06 shows [ 5C,KC,AH,8H ]
XCM06 wins $33.65, zemanova wins $33.65, XCM06 wins $26, zemanova wins $26, wizdo wins $26.

dufal som ze niekto vsadi a dam raise....tot k tomu

OMAHA_HI, POT_LIMIT, P4-71320080-388
played at "Cucuta" for USD RM from 2008-07-04 18:29 until 2008-07-04 18:31
Seat 1: gdokos ($520.70 in chips)
Seat 2: SuperMario.- ($165.70 in chips)
Seat 3: b0n3fish ($93 in chips)
Seat 5: wizdo ($62.50 in chips)
Seat 6: JuLeAnMa ($122.20 in chips)
Seat 8: Cepp0 ($350.25 in chips)
Seat 9: kochanie124 ($146.90 in chips)
Seat 10: Fat_Tony_81 ($90.35 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
JuLeAnMa posts blind ($1), Cepp0 posts blind ($1).

PRE-FLOP
kochanie124 bets $4, Fat_Tony_81 calls $4, gdokos calls $4, SuperMario.- folds, b0n3fish folds, wizdo calls $4, JuLeAnMa calls $3, Cepp0 folds.

FLOP [board cards: KC,3D,4S ]
JuLeAnMa checks, kochanie124 bets $20, Fat_Tony_81 folds, gdokos folds, wizdo calls $20, JuLeAnMa calls $20.

TURN [board cards: KC,3D,4S,JH ]
JuLeAnMa checks, kochanie124 bets $81, wizdo calls $38.50 and is all-in, JuLeAnMa folds.

RIVER [board cards: KC,3D,4S,JH,8D ]


SHOWDOWN
kochanie124 shows [ AC,8C,4H,8H ]
wizdo shows [ 7H,AD,AH,KS ]
kochanie124 wins $42.50, kochanie124 wins $155.
SUMMARY
Dealer: wizdo
Pot: $200.50, (including rake: $3)
gdokos, loses $4
SuperMario.-, loses $0
b0n3fish, loses $0
wizdo, loses $62.50
JuLeAnMa, loses $24
Cepp0, loses $1
kochanie124, bets $105, collects $197.50, net $92.50
Fat_Tony_81, loses $4

rikam .. TOTALNE spatne zahrany.. wizdo se brani tim ze i kdyby raisnul pre flop nebo na flope ze stejne callne ( byl trochu v iltu ten hrac)
na flopu mel prijit na 100% raise ... na co call.. aby chytil treba mizerny dva pary.. stejnne si na turnu callnul ÄI.. jen s AA ..coz uz si mel na zacatku... dal jsi mu sanci se podivat na 4 karty..coz je v omaze HODNe

pred flopem tam poustis strasne moc hracu !!

hrac kochanie124 bol total TITL FISH dovod preco som enraisol preflop bol jednoduchy aj tak yb ma vsetci calli tak som cel vidiet flop(kochanie124 sla prva cize som vedel ze bude bet pot a hraci sa vyjadria vsetci fold(ja si hovorim callnem a kuknem este turn LEBO SOM SI NEVSIMOL HRACA ZA MNOU ZE ESTE HRA) turn neskodny TILT moj all in ja po uvaze ze 2 pary a set mu neverim call ako inak mal menej ako par mal middle pair....a hold RIVER je RIVER sku**** vyj***** zas**** atd...

v com je problem? podla mysaka som mal lepsie moznosti keby som sa tam rperaisoval a ze by to mozno foldol....kezde poznam B**n hru OMAHY tak som vedel ze raise mi to len stazi bo ma aspon 2 callnu(pot po flope by bol taky ze moj all in po kochanie124 bete by bol zanedbatelny)....tj pot raise rpeflop = 22usd ak sa nemylim calli by ma +- 2ja a kochanie na 100% po flope by mi aj tak dala all in(moj nazor) cize po flope by bol pot niekde medzi 60 - 100+usd a teraz otazka pre mna potrebujem amt v hre 2+ja a viac ludi pot taky ze moj all in 40 usd nezanmena skoro nic?...

CAKAM kritiku a rozuzlenie:-)

nie po flope ale na flope pred betovanim by bol pot 60-100+usd....

a nie +-2hraci a kochanie ale kochanie + dakto ja a este mozno niekto, teda ak by kochanie neraisla moj raise co s jej rukou A884 ds by sa stalo...

zoberte si co mal ten hrac za ruku A884 ds, ako pre mna ruka na limp mozno call maleho raisu max...ale pre donkov co tam hraju je to ruka kde sa im zableskne pred ocami:-D

no a ten trochu tilt...hru predtym prehral all in asik 200usd s FD ked bol sparovani board a mal 23s a stmy sa siel raisovat:-D no a teraz mi s cistym sveodmim povedzte ze by mi A884 foldol...

ano chybu na flope si priznavam...ale preflop si stojim za svojim ze call nebol zly....

tak pokud jsi si jistej ze call pre flop je 100% OK tak to v tom pripade to tvoje AA zahazujes tak ze 80% na flopu ?? co cekas od flopu ?? A-cko ?? Do hry jde hodne lidi = VELKA pravdepodobnost ze ty zbyvajici dve A nekdo uz drzi !! takze od flopu nemuzes tim padem cekat skoro nic. A tim ze callnes poustis vpoho do hry hrace tipu KQs44 .... takze strasne moc paru.. tim padu velika sance ze oni chyti set a ty si nabijes hubu. A nebo lepe - budes muset 80% takhle zahranych AA na flope foldovat ;)
Totˇ muj nazot, vyjadrete se ostatni ;)

vidno ze nehravas OMAHU, heh raise preflop zvalast ked ide tilt fish sa calluje a vo velkom....minimalne ten gdokos by do toho siel ak by mal daco take ako KQ44ds atd....

a ANO ja bych to zahodil...stalo by ma to len 4 usd a s cistym srdcom FOLD....ja si myslim ze kym nemas AAxx ds a to xx je obe karty vysie ako T cize AAQQ,AAKQ,AAKK AATT atd nemam dovod raisovat preflop dop multiway potu....

ako som ti hovoril hram tight a nemam BM preto neraisujem az tolko...ovsemze s BM easy rr