Kaktus on holdem :-)
Re: Kaktus on holdem :-)
ten popis toho turnu to ako myslis seriozne ? Ja to vidim ze si mal luck na mongoloida, alebo na niekoho hrozne vytiltovaneho co to callol s TPGK a nemyslim si ze takto budes zo setov dostavat value aj v buducnosti.
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Re: Kaktus on holdem :-)
Suhlasim s tym, ze je to bud FPS alebo nehorazny level . Keby si o Tebe myslel, ze si nejaka aggro fishka, tak okej, ale inak si tiez myslim, ze si proti nemu uluckoval misclick alebo tilt a necakam, ze ak raisnes menej a betnes river, tak bude instafoldovat - si skor myslim, ze tak ziskas viac value. Len please nepokusaj sa nieco taketo balancovat moc .
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Re: Kaktus on holdem :-)
keby ste boli na mieste toho rega aky range by ste mi davali pri line c/c flop, c/r turn, bet river?? (to nie je myslene nejak ustipcne alebo co vazne ma to zaujima ) ja osobne som veeeeelmi podozrievavy voci takejto line a myslim ze po c/r turn by mi v hlave zasvietilo baluga theorem a bol by som to velmi nachylny foldnut ak by som sa nahodou aj dostal na river nemyslim ze by som bol este ochotny zaplatit nejaky bet.
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Re: Kaktus on holdem :-)
No Tvoja uvaha ma jeden maly problem - to, ze Ti tam normalne reg nie je ochotny casto vela zaplatit, kym Ta nevidel blaznit je pravda. Myslis si ale, ze ked check/overbetshovnes turn, tak Ti je ochotny zaplatit viac? Nezmysel .. Ak by Ti foldol na check/raise s normalnym sizingom, tak Ti foldne check/shove. S normalnym sizingom sa da cakat, ze sa skor ukeca na call v porovnani s check/shove, ak nie je retardovany alebo rad levelujuci uNL hrac. Ak Ti na turne bude instafoldovat, tak zacni tak bluffovat.
A co sa baluga theoremu tyka, tak turn nie je blank a tu to nemusi byt az tak casto monster ako na blank karte. Tu mas na turne vela combodrawov - neprisla predsa 2o.
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Nehovoriac o tom, ze ak Ti na turne pride combodraw, tak snad nechces check/shovovat a chces check/raisovat normalne. Tvoj shove s monsterom vs normalny raise ako semibluff si tam vsimne aj netrenovana vinna muska .
Tiez Ti tam moze callnut s nejakymi draws normalny raise a shovom z nich neziskas ziadnu value ..
A co sa baluga theoremu tyka, tak turn nie je blank a tu to nemusi byt az tak casto monster ako na blank karte. Tu mas na turne vela combodrawov - neprisla predsa 2o.
EDIT:
Nehovoriac o tom, ze ak Ti na turne pride combodraw, tak snad nechces check/shovovat a chces check/raisovat normalne. Tvoj shove s monsterom vs normalny raise ako semibluff si tam vsimne aj netrenovana vinna muska .
Tiez Ti tam moze callnut s nejakymi draws normalny raise a shovom z nich neziskas ziadnu value ..
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Re: Kaktus on holdem :-)
no dnes to celkom slo inac vcera som este v druhej session pustil 2.5BI (top 2 vs set, badbeat QQ vs AK na nizkom flope - typek dotiahol flush a 3bet pot ked som mal TPGK a 2nd nut FD a naletel som si do AA, ktore super flatol OOP) aby si nahodou niekto nemyslel ze ficim az tak hot inac ten pad na zaciatku session bol sposobeny tym ze mi prave realitak poslal sms ze uz som na liste vlastnictva ako vlastnik bytu tak som sa nejak roztiltoval . radsej som si dal na nejaku hodku pauzu, isiel sa od radosti obzrat do mekaca a ked som sa vratil uz som bol zase ok inac zboznujem moju red line
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Re: Kaktus on holdem :-)
tak som si pustil este na dobru noc PLO 0.01/0.02. pozeram ze to bude asi celkom zaberak na psychiku nehovoriac o tom ze z equity som mal dost velky gulas kazdopadne je to funny hra a prebudza sa v nej moj gamblersky duch
btw. ak sa tu mihne wizdo alebo niekto iny kto hrava PLO bez vsetkeho ma sprdnite za vsetko co robim zle momentalne som viac menej vo faze skusania a tak. nemam este utrasene ani zakladne teoreticke koncepty.
toto bol inac asi loose call preflop ale mam par plus K suited plus broadway. vazne neviem ci je to fold alebo call
Poker Stars $0.01/$0.02 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players - View hand 794863
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Hero (BTN): $4.65
SB: $2.16
BB: $0.80
UTG: $5.06
CO: $2.06
Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is BTN with K 8 8 J
1 fold, CO raises to $0.07, Hero calls $0.07, SB calls $0.06, 1 fold
Flop: ($0.23) 6 Q T (3 players)
SB checks, CO checks, Hero checks
Turn: ($0.23) A (3 players)
SB bets $0.20, CO folds, Hero raises to $0.82, SB raises to $2.09 all in, Hero calls $1.27
River: ($4.41) 7 (2 players - 1 is all in)
Final Pot: $4.41
Hero shows K 8 8 J (a straight, Ten to Ace)
SB shows 5 K J T (a flush, Ace high)
SB wins $4.19
(Rake: $0.22)
2. asi loose open PF ale typek UTG hral nieco ako 93/4
Poker Stars $0.01/$0.02 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players - View hand 794864
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UTG: $6.89
Hero (CO): $2.00
BTN: $1.45
SB: $1.77
BB: $4.85
Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is CO with J 2 Q Q
UTG calls $0.02, Hero raises to $0.09, BTN calls $0.09, SB calls $0.08, 1 fold, UTG calls $0.07
Flop: ($0.38) 7 A Q (4 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $0.22, BTN folds, SB folds, UTG raises to $1.03, Hero raises to $1.91 all in, UTG calls $0.88
Turn: ($4.20) K (2 players - 1 is all in)
River: ($4.20) 6 (2 players - 1 is all in)
Final Pot: $4.20
UTG shows A Q A 3 (three of a kind, Aces)
Hero shows J 2 Q Q (three of a kind, Queens)
UTG wins $4.00
(Rake: $0.20)
3. myslim ze taketo situacie budu asi v PLO bezne
Poker Stars $0.01/$0.02 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players - View hand 794866
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BB: $2.27
UTG: $2.03
Hero (MP): $2.00
CO: $1.34
BTN: $2.06
SB: $1.20
Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is MP with Q A 4 A
UTG raises to $0.07, Hero raises to $0.24, 2 folds, SB calls $0.23, 1 fold, UTG calls $0.17
Flop: ($0.74) 2 T 3 (3 players)
SB checks, UTG bets $0.71, Hero raises to $1.76 all in, SB calls $0.96 all in, UTG calls $1.05
Turn: ($5.22) 2 (3 players - 2 are all in)
River: ($5.22) K (3 players - 2 are all in)
Final Pot: $5.22
UTG shows 3 5 A 3 (a full house, Threes full of Deuces)
Hero shows Q A 4 A (a flush, Ace high)
SB shows T 7 2 7 (a full house, Deuces full of Tens)
UTG wins $1.52
UTG wins $3.45
(Rake: $0.25)
4. na flope nuts na turne dead
Poker Stars $0.01/$0.02 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players - View hand 794868
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter
Hero (UTG): $2.49
MP: $4.17
CO: $0.93
BTN: $5.03
SB: $1.96
BB: $1.95
Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is UTG with A T 4 K
Hero raises to $0.07, 1 fold, CO calls $0.07, 2 folds, BB calls $0.05
Flop: ($0.22) Q J T (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.21, CO calls $0.21, BB raises to $1.04, Hero raises to $2.42 all in, CO calls $0.65 all in, BB calls $0.84 all in
Turn: ($4.84) 4 (3 players - 3 are all in)
River: ($4.84) 6 (3 players - 3 are all in)
Final Pot: $4.84
Hero shows A T 4 K (a straight, Ten to Ace)
CO shows J 9 8 J (a straight, Eight to Queen)
BB shows K 8 9 A (a flush, King high)
BB wins $1.93
BB wins $2.67
(Rake: $0.24)
btw. ak sa tu mihne wizdo alebo niekto iny kto hrava PLO bez vsetkeho ma sprdnite za vsetko co robim zle momentalne som viac menej vo faze skusania a tak. nemam este utrasene ani zakladne teoreticke koncepty.
toto bol inac asi loose call preflop ale mam par plus K suited plus broadway. vazne neviem ci je to fold alebo call
Poker Stars $0.01/$0.02 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players - View hand 794863
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter
Hero (BTN): $4.65
SB: $2.16
BB: $0.80
UTG: $5.06
CO: $2.06
Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is BTN with K 8 8 J
1 fold, CO raises to $0.07, Hero calls $0.07, SB calls $0.06, 1 fold
Flop: ($0.23) 6 Q T (3 players)
SB checks, CO checks, Hero checks
Turn: ($0.23) A (3 players)
SB bets $0.20, CO folds, Hero raises to $0.82, SB raises to $2.09 all in, Hero calls $1.27
River: ($4.41) 7 (2 players - 1 is all in)
Final Pot: $4.41
Hero shows K 8 8 J (a straight, Ten to Ace)
SB shows 5 K J T (a flush, Ace high)
SB wins $4.19
(Rake: $0.22)
2. asi loose open PF ale typek UTG hral nieco ako 93/4
Poker Stars $0.01/$0.02 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players - View hand 794864
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UTG: $6.89
Hero (CO): $2.00
BTN: $1.45
SB: $1.77
BB: $4.85
Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is CO with J 2 Q Q
UTG calls $0.02, Hero raises to $0.09, BTN calls $0.09, SB calls $0.08, 1 fold, UTG calls $0.07
Flop: ($0.38) 7 A Q (4 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $0.22, BTN folds, SB folds, UTG raises to $1.03, Hero raises to $1.91 all in, UTG calls $0.88
Turn: ($4.20) K (2 players - 1 is all in)
River: ($4.20) 6 (2 players - 1 is all in)
Final Pot: $4.20
UTG shows A Q A 3 (three of a kind, Aces)
Hero shows J 2 Q Q (three of a kind, Queens)
UTG wins $4.00
(Rake: $0.20)
3. myslim ze taketo situacie budu asi v PLO bezne
Poker Stars $0.01/$0.02 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players - View hand 794866
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter
BB: $2.27
UTG: $2.03
Hero (MP): $2.00
CO: $1.34
BTN: $2.06
SB: $1.20
Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is MP with Q A 4 A
UTG raises to $0.07, Hero raises to $0.24, 2 folds, SB calls $0.23, 1 fold, UTG calls $0.17
Flop: ($0.74) 2 T 3 (3 players)
SB checks, UTG bets $0.71, Hero raises to $1.76 all in, SB calls $0.96 all in, UTG calls $1.05
Turn: ($5.22) 2 (3 players - 2 are all in)
River: ($5.22) K (3 players - 2 are all in)
Final Pot: $5.22
UTG shows 3 5 A 3 (a full house, Threes full of Deuces)
Hero shows Q A 4 A (a flush, Ace high)
SB shows T 7 2 7 (a full house, Deuces full of Tens)
UTG wins $1.52
UTG wins $3.45
(Rake: $0.25)
4. na flope nuts na turne dead
Poker Stars $0.01/$0.02 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players - View hand 794868
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter
Hero (UTG): $2.49
MP: $4.17
CO: $0.93
BTN: $5.03
SB: $1.96
BB: $1.95
Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is UTG with A T 4 K
Hero raises to $0.07, 1 fold, CO calls $0.07, 2 folds, BB calls $0.05
Flop: ($0.22) Q J T (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.21, CO calls $0.21, BB raises to $1.04, Hero raises to $2.42 all in, CO calls $0.65 all in, BB calls $0.84 all in
Turn: ($4.84) 4 (3 players - 3 are all in)
River: ($4.84) 6 (3 players - 3 are all in)
Final Pot: $4.84
Hero shows A T 4 K (a straight, Ten to Ace)
CO shows J 9 8 J (a straight, Eight to Queen)
BB shows K 8 9 A (a flush, King high)
BB wins $1.93
BB wins $2.67
(Rake: $0.24)
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mr_kaktus - Príspevky: 1168
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Re: Kaktus on holdem :-)
prve 2 ruky fold preflop, ostatne standard
zisk na uPLO tvoris tym, ze hras s rukami, ktore maju nuts potencial a teda aj nieco ako AA72 (non suited) na UTG je trash
na uPLO ma majorita hracov odmontovany fold button a zabudni, ze budes casto vyhravat na overpair v showdowne 4way
tu je top 30 startovnych kombinacii, samozrejme je jasne ze bude profitable hrat aj ovela sirsie v neskorych poziciach, hlavne double suited ruky, suited Axxx, rundowns (6789 atd.), nizsie double paired ruky 9988(ss/ds), taktiez rozne 1-2 gapper rundowns ako QT98(ss/ds) [single suited alebo double suited], KQT9 a pod.
one more thing..it's high variance as hell
zisk na uPLO tvoris tym, ze hras s rukami, ktore maju nuts potencial a teda aj nieco ako AA72 (non suited) na UTG je trash
na uPLO ma majorita hracov odmontovany fold button a zabudni, ze budes casto vyhravat na overpair v showdowne 4way
tu je top 30 startovnych kombinacii, samozrejme je jasne ze bude profitable hrat aj ovela sirsie v neskorych poziciach, hlavne double suited ruky, suited Axxx, rundowns (6789 atd.), nizsie double paired ruky 9988(ss/ds), taktiez rozne 1-2 gapper rundowns ako QT98(ss/ds) [single suited alebo double suited], KQT9 a pod.
one more thing..it's high variance as hell
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Re: Kaktus on holdem :-)
po jednodnvej pauze zapinam dnes poobede P****Stars a celkom to ide......az kym....
Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 797958
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Hero (MP): $31.64
CO: $23.75
BTN: $29.79
SB: $67.47
BB: $25.00
UTG: $30.92
Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is MP with A A
UTG raises to $0.75, Hero raises to $2.75, 4 folds, UTG raises to $10, Hero raises to $31.64 all in, UTG calls $20.92 all in
Flop: ($62.19) 4 9 K (2 players - 2 are all in)
Turn: ($62.19) 2 (2 players - 2 are all in)
River: ($62.19) Q (2 players - 2 are all in)
Final Pot: $62.19
Hero shows A A (a pair of Aces)
UTG shows Q Q (three of a kind, Queens)
UTG wins $60.19
(Rake: $2.00)
na tie queeny mam jednoducho nejaku smolu radsej som to vypol a skusim neskor. inac tento mesiac zatial ficim zlahka viac ako 6BI pod AI EV ale musim sa pochvalit ze zo dna na den sa mi zda NL25 viac soft. celkom dobre sa mi tam uz orientuje a ked ma nechyti nejaky spewy zachvat tak malokedy vyplatim monstre superov btw.cervena su NonSD nie AI EV .
Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 797958
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter
Hero (MP): $31.64
CO: $23.75
BTN: $29.79
SB: $67.47
BB: $25.00
UTG: $30.92
Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is MP with A A
UTG raises to $0.75, Hero raises to $2.75, 4 folds, UTG raises to $10, Hero raises to $31.64 all in, UTG calls $20.92 all in
Flop: ($62.19) 4 9 K (2 players - 2 are all in)
Turn: ($62.19) 2 (2 players - 2 are all in)
River: ($62.19) Q (2 players - 2 are all in)
Final Pot: $62.19
Hero shows A A (a pair of Aces)
UTG shows Q Q (three of a kind, Queens)
UTG wins $60.19
(Rake: $2.00)
na tie queeny mam jednoducho nejaku smolu radsej som to vypol a skusim neskor. inac tento mesiac zatial ficim zlahka viac ako 6BI pod AI EV ale musim sa pochvalit ze zo dna na den sa mi zda NL25 viac soft. celkom dobre sa mi tam uz orientuje a ked ma nechyti nejaky spewy zachvat tak malokedy vyplatim monstre superov btw.cervena su NonSD nie AI EV .
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Re: Kaktus on holdem :-)
standardne IP 3betujes 4x?
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Re: Kaktus on holdem :-)
vacsinou 3.5x ale tento hral 13/6 cize som cakal 4bet alebo fold vacsinu casu. ale pre pripad ze by ma callol s nejakym AK chcel som vybudovat pot co najvacsi nakolko sme trochu deep, a tiez ak ma 4betne chcel som aby moj 5 bet push nebol az taky overbet. 3 krat som tento post prepisoval tak dufam ze som aspon pochopitelne napisal co som chcel dosiahnut
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