2 overcards = 6 outs

na jednu kartu pravdepodobnost = 2 x outs
na dve karty pravdepodobnost = 4 x outs

velmi priblizne ale zhruba to sedi +- par percent

to allsam: ked dorovnavas allin nemas implied odds lebo uz dalsie peniaze v dalsich kolach do potu prist nemozu. co sa tyka pot odds tak tam treba ratat aj s tym ze v urcitom percente pripadov je vpredu a nepotrebuje aby sa mu sparovali karty na vyhru + hodnota toho ze super neskor nebude moct tolko bluffovat

Keso, tieto veci su strasne lahka matika, musis rozmyslat a skusit si to vzit. Uz to vysvetlil Yegon, je len pridam, ze ak su 3 karty na boarde, plus ty mas 2 a super 2, ostava v decku este 45 kariet, cize sanca ze vylezie kazda je 1/45, co je cosi viac ako 1/50, cize cosi viac ako 2%. Ak je pred tebou aj turn, su na to 2 pokusy. Preto 6 outs - okolo 25%. Malo by to byt okolo 27%, ale musis odratat moznost, ze tebe sice dojde out (napr. J), ale fesakovi na river zase jeho out - napr T.

Jonatanko, cstrike, ja sice beriem, co hovorite, ale...

...aj tak si myslim, ze existuje aj taky pohlad, ze chalan proste spravil v tomto pripade pomerne drahu chybu;-)

Yegon, ak

+ hodnota toho ze super neskor nebude moct tolko bluffovat

tak potom aj

- hodnota toho, ze super bude vediet, ze ho mas precitaneho ako bluffera a dovoli si dat allin ako value bet v case, ked fakt bude mat ruku...

tazko to my supacikovia mozeme posudit

HU nie je o kartach ale o manipulacii so superom, v lepsom pripade mame pred sebou este niekolko rokov studovania kym aspon zhruba pochopime co tu ti chlapci robia - ale pravdepodobnejsie je ze to nepochopime nikdy

mam tiez jeden divoky priklad z 5600$ HeadsUp SNG

P****Stars Game #12922621143: Tournament #65581301, $5500+$100 Hold'em No Limit - Match Round I, Level I (10/20) - 2007/10/29 - 17:18:51 (ET)
Table '65581301 1' 2-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: gordo16 (1450 in chips)
Seat 2: Dariominieri (1550 in chips)
Dariominieri: posts small blind 10
gordo16: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to gordo16 [8d 7d]
Dariominieri: raises 40 to 60
gordo16: raises 120 to 180
Dariominieri: calls 120
*** FLOP *** [7h 7s Ks]
gordo16: bets 180
Dariominieri: raises 1190 to 1370 and is all-in
gordo16: calls 1090 and is all-in
*** TURN *** [7h 7s Ks] [Ts]
*** RIVER *** [7h 7s Ks Ts] [2h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
gordo16: shows [8d 7d] (three of a kind, Sevens)
Dariominieri: shows [3s 6s] (a flush, King high)
gordo16 said, "lol"
Dariominieri collected 2900 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2900 | Rake 0
Board [7h 7s Ks Ts 2h]
Seat 1: gordo16 (big blind) showed [8d 7d] and lost with three of a kind, Sevens
Seat 2: Dariominieri (button) (small blind) showed [3s 6s] and won (2900) with a flush, King high

nasiel som to v zahranicnom fore, vacsina sa zhodla na tom ze to bolo uplne standardne :)

Opat ten isty hrac,asi za 10min spravil z 40k okolo 200k:) tu je jedna z hier:

Full Tilt Poker Game #4015990031: Table Vasari (heads up) - $200/$400 - No Limit Hold'em - 17:17:05 ET - 2007/10/30
Seat 1: johhnycash12 ($85,587.50)
Seat 2: Genius28 ($72,797.50)
Genius28 has 5 seconds left to act
Genius28 posts the small blind of $200
johhnycash12 posts the big blind of $400
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Genius28 raises to $1,200
johhnycash12 raises to $4,200
Genius28 calls $3,000
*** FLOP *** [Td Jc 2c]
johhnycash12 has 15 seconds left to act
johhnycash12 bets $6,400
Genius28 has 15 seconds left to act
Genius28 raises to $15,200
johhnycash12 has 15 seconds left to act
johhnycash12 has requested TIME
johhnycash12 calls $8,800
*** TURN *** [Td Jc 2c] [Ts]
johhnycash12 checks
Genius28 has 15 seconds left to act
Genius28 bets $53,397.50, and is all in
johhnycash12 has 15 seconds left to act
johhnycash12 has requested TIME
johhnycash12 calls $53,397.50
Genius28 shows [9d Tc]
johhnycash12 shows [Jh Ac]
*** RIVER *** [Td Jc 2c Ts] [9s]
Genius28 shows a full house, Tens full of Nines
johhnycash12 shows two pair, Jacks and Tens
Genius28 wins the pot ($145,594.50) with a full house, Tens full of Nines
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $145,595 | Rake $0.50
Board: [Td Jc 2c Ts 9s]
Seat 1: johhnycash12 (big blind) showed [Jh Ac] and lost with two pair, Jacks and Tens
Seat 2: Genius28 (small blind) showed [9d Tc] and won ($145,594.50) with a full house, Tens full of Nines

jojo iny sport ako hovori counter -:)