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Re: Re: dnesna predposledna ruka na cashi
Ja zistujem, ze na tychto limitoch reraisi vzdy znamenaju silnu ruku...ale nevuem, ci by som to vedel polozit. Ale bol si asi az moc isty ze betnes, ked river len checkol. Ja by som ale turn asi 2bareloval, bal by som sa 67.
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Re: dnesna predposledna ruka na cashi
Disclaimer: napisal si vysledky, mozem byt ovplyvneny.
Keso, co znamena ten check na turne? Sme vpredu hadam, tak valuebetujeme, nie? Ak to znova zavola, 8 je mozna, rovnako ako AK ci 99, preto checks/call na riveri...
Vidim za tym snahu o pot control, ale to je dobra vec s TPNK alebo MPDK, nie s overpairom imho...
Keso, co znamena ten check na turne? Sme vpredu hadam, tak valuebetujeme, nie? Ak to znova zavola, 8 je mozna, rovnako ako AK ci 99, preto checks/call na riveri...
Vidim za tym snahu o pot control, ale to je dobra vec s TPNK alebo MPDK, nie s overpairom imho...
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Re:
to hulmazas a fidelko - yo ja viem, ze ten raise na river smrdi a vacsinou to znamena silnu ruku, ale ako som povedal, myslel som si, ze ma chce bluffnut. Ale mohol mat aj 99 al. TT pricom si mohol mysliet, ze mam missed AK, AQ..ale to by mal len callnut. Skratka som to zavolal a potom som mu uz len zatlieskal :)
to 7castle - vela hracov (hlavne pasivnych) je tazko citatelna a na NL10 po betnutom flope od supera s monsterom len zavolaju, sparoval sa board, cize som sa trosku zlakol FH s (22, 55), navyse som mal som poziciu a po jeho check turne, som to checkol tiez s tym, ze si pozriem, co spravi na river. Ten zas len checkol, preto som neveril, ze je silny, ved po predoslej "akcii" nebetnut river je s rukou aku mal on a nesnazit sa dostat peniaze do potu je hriech. Spoliehat sa na jeho mieste na to, ze super sa ma pokusi bluffnut a bude ch/r-ovat river je somarina, bohuzial som mu na to skocil.
Ale suhlasim aj s tym, ze ten turn som mal urcite betnut, ved kto sa boji nech nechodi do lesa :) ..strach pri stole nema co robit.
to 7castle - vela hracov (hlavne pasivnych) je tazko citatelna a na NL10 po betnutom flope od supera s monsterom len zavolaju, sparoval sa board, cize som sa trosku zlakol FH s (22, 55), navyse som mal som poziciu a po jeho check turne, som to checkol tiez s tym, ze si pozriem, co spravi na river. Ten zas len checkol, preto som neveril, ze je silny, ved po predoslej "akcii" nebetnut river je s rukou aku mal on a nesnazit sa dostat peniaze do potu je hriech. Spoliehat sa na jeho mieste na to, ze super sa ma pokusi bluffnut a bude ch/r-ovat river je somarina, bohuzial som mu na to skocil.
Ale suhlasim aj s tym, ze ten turn som mal urcite betnut, ved kto sa boji nech nechodi do lesa :) ..strach pri stole nema co robit.
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yo a este nieco
..este vysvetlim ten nizky bet na river, to kvoli tomu, ze ak ma bude nahodou navysovat, aby ten call pre mna nebol prilis drahy. Predtym betom som premyslal do poslednej sekundy a zvazoval co moze drzat, ale to prekliate A8 mi neviem preco nenapadlo, uplne prestalo existovat :)
Ono, da sa povedat, ze v tejto konkretnej ruke na to ako mu to priskocilo som zase az tak vela nastastie nestratil. Uz som sa naucil, ze na tychto limitoch sa hra vseliak a svoju ruku som vyhodnotil ako stredne silnu, cize netlacim zbytocne peniaze do potu, ked uz mozem byt pozadu, zaroven mam ale showdown value, tak preto to bolo zahrane tak ako bolo.
Ono, da sa povedat, ze v tejto konkretnej ruke na to ako mu to priskocilo som zase az tak vela nastastie nestratil. Uz som sa naucil, ze na tychto limitoch sa hra vseliak a svoju ruku som vyhodnotil ako stredne silnu, cize netlacim zbytocne peniaze do potu, ked uz mozem byt pozadu, zaroven mam ale showdown value, tak preto to bolo zahrane tak ako bolo.
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Re: yo a este nieco
ja som napisal..."ale neviem, ci by som to vedel polozit", cize do vysky potu by som to aj ja pravdepodobne callol s tym, ze este by som ani neklikol na call a uz by som si nadaval, ako to mozem zavolat :-|| *TIRED*
proste overpairy sa tazko zahadzuju. A uz aj ked sa nejaky prinutim zahodit zistim, ze som bol lepsi...cize parada :-)
proste overpairy sa tazko zahadzuju. A uz aj ked sa nejaky prinutim zahodit zistim, ze som bol lepsi...cize parada :-)
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Ked prehrate aj ked vyhrate, alebo ked vas herna nema rada
TEXAS_HOLDEM, NO_LIMIT, P4-69181381-251
played at "Bursa" for USD RM from 2008-06-04 13:31 until 2008-06-04 13:32
Seat 1: chrispoker37 ($22.91 in chips)
Seat 2: bartek83 ($10 in chips)
Seat 3: AlvaroEs ($10.10 in chips)
Seat 4: vlcisko ($10.15 in chips)
Seat 5: tdawe ($9.46 in chips)
Seat 6: MichielWink ($10.09 in chips)
Seat 7: hichoum1 ($2.26 in chips)
Seat 8: winlands ($2.47 in chips)
Seat 9: Feexig ($9.65 in chips)
Seat 10: Nulitate ($7.10 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
winlands posts blind ($0.05), Feexig posts blind ($0.10).
PRE-FLOP
Nulitate folds, chrispoker37 calls $0.10, bartek83 calls $0.10, AlvaroEs folds, vlcisko calls $0.10, tdawe folds, MichielWink folds, hichoum1 folds, winlands folds, Feexig checks.
FLOP [board cards: TH,QC,KS ]
Feexig checks, chrispoker37 bets $0.30, bartek83 folds, vlcisko calls $0.30, Feexig folds.
TURN [board cards: TH,QC,KS,9S ]
chrispoker37 bets $1, vlcisko bets $4.05, chrispoker37 bets $20, vlcisko calls $5.70 and is all-in.
RIVER [board cards: TH,QC,KS,9S,AS ]
SHOWDOWN
chrispoker37 shows [ JS,JC ]
vlcisko shows [ AD,JH ]
chrispoker37 wins $11.25, chrispoker37 wins $9.77, vlcisko wins $9.76.
Skoro ma roztrhlo...a este som aj prehral kvoli rake.
TEXAS_HOLDEM, NO_LIMIT, P4-69190146-152
played at "M91962255718's HE" for USD RM from 2008-06-04 13:50 until 2008-06-04 13:52
Seat 1: konttiantti ($8.33 in chips)
Seat 2: dvd94 ($9 in chips)
Seat 3: Guinness. ($8.40 in chips)
Seat 4: toutatout ($20.10 in chips)
Seat 5: Affekt77 ($9.88 in chips)
Seat 6: selbstdreher ($9.94 in chips)
Seat 7: Pep921 ($3.08 in chips)
Seat 8: kisaly ($7.95 in chips)
Seat 9: vlcisko ($12.35 in chips)
Seat 10: bluffy_79 ($12.27 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
kisaly posts blind ($0.05), vlcisko posts blind ($0.10).
PRE-FLOP
bluffy_79 folds, konttiantti folds, dvd94 folds, Guinness. bets $0.20, toutatout folds, Affekt77 folds, selbstdreher folds, Pep921 folds, kisaly folds, vlcisko calls $0.10.
FLOP [board cards: 5S,3D,5H ]
vlcisko checks, Guinness. bets $0.50, vlcisko calls $0.50.
TURN [board cards: 5S,3D,5H,9C ]
vlcisko checks, Guinness. bets $1, vlcisko bets $3.60, Guinness. calls $2.60.
RIVER [board cards: 5S,3D,5H,9C,5D ]
vlcisko checks, Guinness. bets $4.10 and is all-in, vlcisko calls $4.10.
SHOWDOWN
Guinness. shows [ 8C,8S ]
vlcisko shows [ 3S,3H ]
Guinness. wins $16.01.
Tomuto sa hovori tilt call. Vedel som, ze som prehral,ked sa tam objavila ta pätka.
TEXAS_HOLDEM, NO_LIMIT, P4-69190146-163
played at "M91962255718's HE" for USD RM from 2008-06-04 14:03 until 2008-06-04 14:05
Seat 1: konttiantti ($8.08 in chips)
Seat 2: dvd94 ($21.31 in chips)
Seat 3: Guinness. ($10.46 in chips)
Seat 4: toutatout ($18.91 in chips)
Seat 5: Affekt77 ($4.52 in chips)
Seat 6: selbstdreher ($9.19 in chips)
Seat 7: Pep921 ($2.93 in chips)
Seat 8: cemadro ($8.44 in chips)
Seat 9: vlcisko ($10.79 in chips)
Seat 10: bluffy_79 ($12.07 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
bluffy_79 posts blind ($0.05), konttiantti posts blind ($0.10), cemadro posts blind ($0.10).
PRE-FLOP
dvd94 folds, Guinness. folds, toutatout folds, Affekt77 calls $0.10, selbstdreher folds, Pep921 calls $0.10, cemadro checks, vlcisko bets $0.70, bluffy_79 calls $0.65, konttiantti folds, Affekt77 folds, Pep921 calls $0.60, cemadro calls $0.60.
FLOP [board cards: 9H,7D,QS ]
bluffy_79 checks, Pep921 checks, cemadro bets $1, vlcisko bets $3, bluffy_79 folds, Pep921 folds, cemadro bets $6.74 and is all-in, vlcisko calls $4.74.
TURN [board cards: 9H,7D,QS,4H ]
RIVER [board cards: 9H,7D,QS,4H,KH ]
SHOWDOWN
cemadro shows [ 7S,7H ]
vlcisko shows [ AH,QC ]
cemadro wins $17.56.
Toto som uz musela zavolat...teda nemusel:-)
played at "Bursa" for USD RM from 2008-06-04 13:31 until 2008-06-04 13:32
Seat 1: chrispoker37 ($22.91 in chips)
Seat 2: bartek83 ($10 in chips)
Seat 3: AlvaroEs ($10.10 in chips)
Seat 4: vlcisko ($10.15 in chips)
Seat 5: tdawe ($9.46 in chips)
Seat 6: MichielWink ($10.09 in chips)
Seat 7: hichoum1 ($2.26 in chips)
Seat 8: winlands ($2.47 in chips)
Seat 9: Feexig ($9.65 in chips)
Seat 10: Nulitate ($7.10 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
winlands posts blind ($0.05), Feexig posts blind ($0.10).
PRE-FLOP
Nulitate folds, chrispoker37 calls $0.10, bartek83 calls $0.10, AlvaroEs folds, vlcisko calls $0.10, tdawe folds, MichielWink folds, hichoum1 folds, winlands folds, Feexig checks.
FLOP [board cards: TH,QC,KS ]
Feexig checks, chrispoker37 bets $0.30, bartek83 folds, vlcisko calls $0.30, Feexig folds.
TURN [board cards: TH,QC,KS,9S ]
chrispoker37 bets $1, vlcisko bets $4.05, chrispoker37 bets $20, vlcisko calls $5.70 and is all-in.
RIVER [board cards: TH,QC,KS,9S,AS ]
SHOWDOWN
chrispoker37 shows [ JS,JC ]
vlcisko shows [ AD,JH ]
chrispoker37 wins $11.25, chrispoker37 wins $9.77, vlcisko wins $9.76.
Skoro ma roztrhlo...a este som aj prehral kvoli rake.
TEXAS_HOLDEM, NO_LIMIT, P4-69190146-152
played at "M91962255718's HE" for USD RM from 2008-06-04 13:50 until 2008-06-04 13:52
Seat 1: konttiantti ($8.33 in chips)
Seat 2: dvd94 ($9 in chips)
Seat 3: Guinness. ($8.40 in chips)
Seat 4: toutatout ($20.10 in chips)
Seat 5: Affekt77 ($9.88 in chips)
Seat 6: selbstdreher ($9.94 in chips)
Seat 7: Pep921 ($3.08 in chips)
Seat 8: kisaly ($7.95 in chips)
Seat 9: vlcisko ($12.35 in chips)
Seat 10: bluffy_79 ($12.27 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
kisaly posts blind ($0.05), vlcisko posts blind ($0.10).
PRE-FLOP
bluffy_79 folds, konttiantti folds, dvd94 folds, Guinness. bets $0.20, toutatout folds, Affekt77 folds, selbstdreher folds, Pep921 folds, kisaly folds, vlcisko calls $0.10.
FLOP [board cards: 5S,3D,5H ]
vlcisko checks, Guinness. bets $0.50, vlcisko calls $0.50.
TURN [board cards: 5S,3D,5H,9C ]
vlcisko checks, Guinness. bets $1, vlcisko bets $3.60, Guinness. calls $2.60.
RIVER [board cards: 5S,3D,5H,9C,5D ]
vlcisko checks, Guinness. bets $4.10 and is all-in, vlcisko calls $4.10.
SHOWDOWN
Guinness. shows [ 8C,8S ]
vlcisko shows [ 3S,3H ]
Guinness. wins $16.01.
Tomuto sa hovori tilt call. Vedel som, ze som prehral,ked sa tam objavila ta pätka.
TEXAS_HOLDEM, NO_LIMIT, P4-69190146-163
played at "M91962255718's HE" for USD RM from 2008-06-04 14:03 until 2008-06-04 14:05
Seat 1: konttiantti ($8.08 in chips)
Seat 2: dvd94 ($21.31 in chips)
Seat 3: Guinness. ($10.46 in chips)
Seat 4: toutatout ($18.91 in chips)
Seat 5: Affekt77 ($4.52 in chips)
Seat 6: selbstdreher ($9.19 in chips)
Seat 7: Pep921 ($2.93 in chips)
Seat 8: cemadro ($8.44 in chips)
Seat 9: vlcisko ($10.79 in chips)
Seat 10: bluffy_79 ($12.07 in chips)
ANTES/BLINDS
bluffy_79 posts blind ($0.05), konttiantti posts blind ($0.10), cemadro posts blind ($0.10).
PRE-FLOP
dvd94 folds, Guinness. folds, toutatout folds, Affekt77 calls $0.10, selbstdreher folds, Pep921 calls $0.10, cemadro checks, vlcisko bets $0.70, bluffy_79 calls $0.65, konttiantti folds, Affekt77 folds, Pep921 calls $0.60, cemadro calls $0.60.
FLOP [board cards: 9H,7D,QS ]
bluffy_79 checks, Pep921 checks, cemadro bets $1, vlcisko bets $3, bluffy_79 folds, Pep921 folds, cemadro bets $6.74 and is all-in, vlcisko calls $4.74.
TURN [board cards: 9H,7D,QS,4H ]
RIVER [board cards: 9H,7D,QS,4H,KH ]
SHOWDOWN
cemadro shows [ 7S,7H ]
vlcisko shows [ AH,QC ]
cemadro wins $17.56.
Toto som uz musela zavolat...teda nemusel:-)
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Re: Ked prehrate aj ked vyhrate, alebo ked vas herna nema rada
AJ, AQ nesnasim :-! :-! :-! ani AK mi neprinasi :( AA obcas, a KK, QQ taky osidne - nejlepsi je 22 dnes: 2x set na flopu 8-) :-D
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Re: Ked prehrate aj ked vyhrate, alebo ked vas herna nema rada
1. ruka AJo vs JJ - preco ten limp s MP2 ? Si na strednej pozicii a mal by si sa rozhodnut ci polozis, alebo raisnes. Je predpoklad, ze na flope bude dost hracov, cize musis trafit min. dva pary, inak skladas, alebo len kontrolujes pot. Teba vsak krasne trafil, mas nuts, farba nehrozi, zahrane v podstate dobre, ale mohol si do neho viac tlacit uz na flope. Ak betuje tento flop, urcite nieco hitol a chces z neho dostat peniaze. Na turne uz zahrate velmi dobre, skoda esa na river, stava sa no :) Prekvapuje ma ale superov limp pf s JJ, ale asi to hral s early na set value, ale aj tak by sa malo JJ+ navysovat pf bez ohladu na poziciu.
2. ruka 33 vs 88 - zas krasny flop, ale ch/r by sa hodil, aspon minraise, ked uz betuje pot, nieco v tej paprci drzi :) .turn ok a na river callujes $4 do $12 potu, kde Ta uz porazalo 44+ a akakolvek 9. Z toho by slo vycuvat, navyse ked vies, ze super po predoslej akci Ta pravdepodobne poraza.
Vcera som zhodil podobnu situaciu, mam 88, flop J8J turn T, river T. Na moju smolu ale super flop necbetoval. Je to na videu, onedlho zavesim do blogu, co som tam ja povyvadzal :-D
3. ruka AQo vs 77 - raise z BTN, rr flop co je tiez ok, myslim ze pohoda, len trochu smola ;) ..postoval sa z CO ktory ch/callloval, chalan to zahral dobre, na flope dal taky donkbet ako provokaciu, no mal stastie, ze si nieco hitol :)
2. ruka 33 vs 88 - zas krasny flop, ale ch/r by sa hodil, aspon minraise, ked uz betuje pot, nieco v tej paprci drzi :) .turn ok a na river callujes $4 do $12 potu, kde Ta uz porazalo 44+ a akakolvek 9. Z toho by slo vycuvat, navyse ked vies, ze super po predoslej akci Ta pravdepodobne poraza.
Vcera som zhodil podobnu situaciu, mam 88, flop J8J turn T, river T. Na moju smolu ale super flop necbetoval. Je to na videu, onedlho zavesim do blogu, co som tam ja povyvadzal :-D
3. ruka AQo vs 77 - raise z BTN, rr flop co je tiez ok, myslim ze pohoda, len trochu smola ;) ..postoval sa z CO ktory ch/callloval, chalan to zahral dobre, na flope dal taky donkbet ako provokaciu, no mal stastie, ze si nieco hitol :)
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loooooool
..spomina si niekto na moj F****Tilt blog, ako ma tam dosekali, ked som k nim siel hrat ? ( "Tazenie" na FT, alebo preco si tam tak skoro nezahram :) ) ..tak som sa tam po dlhsej dobe vratil a aha co ma tam cakalo hned v prvej ruke :)
Full Tilt Poker, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 7 Players
UTG: $22.20
CO: $26.25
Hero (BTN): $25
Pre-Flop: Q Q dealt to Hero (BTN) UTG raises to $0.75, UTG+1 folds, MP calls $0.75, CO folds, Hero raises to $3, 2 folds, UTG calls $2.25, MP folds Flop: ($7.10) 7 7 9 (2 Players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $5.25, UTG raises to $12.50, Hero raises to $22 and is All-In, UTG calls $6.70 and is All-In Turn: ($45.50) 6 (2 Players - 1 is All-In) River: ($45.50) 8 (2 Players - 1 is All-In) Results: $45.50 Pot ($2.25 Rake) UTG showed T T (a straight, Ten high) and WON $43.25 (+$21.05 NET) Hero showed Q Q (two pair, Queens and Sevens) and LOST (-$22.20 NET)
..je toto vobec mozne ?..pf jasny signal ze mam vysoky par, na flope jasny signal ze mam vysoky par, ale nie, chalan sa ide bit a F****Tilt SA ZAS VYZNAMENA !!! >:o ..co na to povedat ?
Full Tilt Poker, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 7 Players
UTG: $22.20
CO: $26.25
Hero (BTN): $25
Pre-Flop: Q Q dealt to Hero (BTN) UTG raises to $0.75, UTG+1 folds, MP calls $0.75, CO folds, Hero raises to $3, 2 folds, UTG calls $2.25, MP folds Flop: ($7.10) 7 7 9 (2 Players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $5.25, UTG raises to $12.50, Hero raises to $22 and is All-In, UTG calls $6.70 and is All-In Turn: ($45.50) 6 (2 Players - 1 is All-In) River: ($45.50) 8 (2 Players - 1 is All-In) Results: $45.50 Pot ($2.25 Rake) UTG showed T T (a straight, Ten high) and WON $43.25 (+$21.05 NET) Hero showed Q Q (two pair, Queens and Sevens) and LOST (-$22.20 NET)
..je toto vobec mozne ?..pf jasny signal ze mam vysoky par, na flope jasny signal ze mam vysoky par, ale nie, chalan sa ide bit a F****Tilt SA ZAS VYZNAMENA !!! >:o ..co na to povedat ?
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