Hand P4-68867288-172, Started at 31. 5. 2008 12:03 (GMT+2)
Table 'Los Angeles': $4-$4 No Limit HE (Real)
Seat 1: deluxe10 ($454,65 in chips)
Seat 3: Hepschka ($535,70 in chips)
Seat 4: Xian44 ($279 in chips)
Seat 6: F1nAll ($241,60 in chips)
Seat 7: Gollum666x ($386 in chips) (on the button)
Seat 8: 19mash ($76 in chips)
Seat 9: David_978 ($133,60 in chips)
*** Blind Bet Round *** :
19mash : Post Blind ($2)
David_978 : Post Blind ($4)
Dealt to F1nAll: 9c
Dealt to F1nAll: 9s
*** Pre-Flop *** :
deluxe10 : Call ($4)
Hepschka : Call ($4)
Xian44 : Call ($4)
F1nAll : Bet ($8)
Gollum666x : Call ($8)
19mash : Fold
David_978 : Call ($4)
deluxe10 : Call ($4)
Hepschka : Call ($4)
Xian44 : Call ($4)
*** Flop *** : 10d 6d 2s
David_978 : Check
deluxe10 : Check
Hepschka : Check
Xian44 : Bet ($25)
F1nAll : Call ($25)
Gollum666x : Fold
David_978 : Call ($25)
deluxe10 : Fold
Hepschka : Fold
*** Turn *** : [ 10d 6d 2s ] 9h
David_978 : Check
Xian44 : Bet ($40)
F1nAll : Raise ($150)
David_978 : Fold
Xian44 : Call ($110)
*** River *** : [ 10d 6d 2s 9h ] 8h
Dealt to Xian44: 2c
Dealt to Xian44: 2h
Dealt to F1nAll: 9c
Dealt to F1nAll: 9s
Dealt to F1nAll: 9c
Dealt to F1nAll: 9s
Xian44 : Check
F1nAll : Bet ($58,60)
F1nAll : All In ($58,60)
Xian44 : Call ($58,60)
F1nAll : Show Cards
Xian44 : Show Cards
*** SUMMARY ***
Pot: $539,20 | Rake: $3
Board: [ 10d 6d 2s 9h 8h ]
deluxe10 lost $8
Hepschka lost $8
Xian44 lost $241,60 Shows [ 2c 2h ] (three twos)
F1nAll bet $241,60, collected $539,20, net $297,60 Shows [ 9c 9s ] (three nines)
Gollum666x lost $8
19mash lost $2
David_978 lost $33

Hand P4-68946712-218, Started at 1. 6. 2008 17:33 (GMT+2)
Table 'Napa': $2-$2 No Limit HE (Real)
Seat 0: x AlBundy10 ($74 in chips)
Seat 1: Tekman69 ($165 in chips)
Seat 4: HFPDS ($98 in chips)
Seat 6: pokerspitt ($226,10 in chips)
Seat 7: feriedrengen ($144,90 in chips) (on the button)
Seat 8: F1nAll ($222,30 in chips)
Seat 9: SonyMontanna ($40 in chips)
*** Blind Bet Round *** :
F1nAll : Post Blind ($1)
SonyMontanna : Post Blind ($2)
Dealt to F1nAll: Ac
Dealt to F1nAll: As
*** Pre-Flop *** :
x AlBundy10 : Fold
Tekman69 : Bet ($10)
HFPDS : Fold
pokerspitt : Fold
feriedrengen : Fold
F1nAll : Raise ($30)
SonyMontanna : Fold
Tekman69 : Call ($21)
*** Flop *** : 8d 7c 2d
Dealt to Tekman69: 10c
Dealt to Tekman69: 10h
Dealt to F1nAll: Ac
Dealt to F1nAll: As
F1nAll : Check
Tekman69 : Bet ($25)
F1nAll : Raise ($139)
Tekman69 : Call ($109)
Tekman69 : All In ($134)
*** Turn *** : [ 8d 7c 2d ] Qd
*** River *** : [ 8d 7c 2d Qd ] Ks
Dealt to Tekman69: 10c
Dealt to Tekman69: 10h
Dealt to F1nAll: Ac
Dealt to F1nAll: As
F1nAll : Show Cards
Tekman69 : Show Cards
*** SUMMARY ***
Pot: $334 | Rake: $3
Board: [ 8d 7c 2d Qd Ks ]
x AlBundy10 lost $0
Tekman69 lost $165 Shows [ 10c 10h ] (a pair of tens)
HFPDS lost $0
pokerspitt lost $0
feriedrengen lost $0
F1nAll bet $170, collected $334, net $164 Shows [ Ac As ] (a pair of Aces)
SonyMontanna lost $2

tak to nebolo bohvieako zahrate, nakoniec ale uluckovane. Co ten minraise pf s 99 proti trom hracom, ved to Ti musi callnut kazdy limper, co potom cakas od flopu ? Ak sa tam neobjavi dalsia 9, co sa aj stalo a pri siestich ludoch na flope callujes polku potu, na co si vtedy vlastne myslel ? Ak by Ti neprisla 9 na turn (co sa Ti teda stane sakra vynimocne) tak prehravas. Dlhodobo absolutne neziskova situacia pre Teba, podla mna velmi zle zahrate. Aj ked pravda je, ze to su limity uplne mimo mojho BM.

dalsia ruka AA vs TT pf v pohode, ale OOP checknut tak nebezpecny flop a ponuknut moznost karty zadarmo, ked tam hrozi str8 aj flush draw, no to je odvaha :)

podla mna su to handy o play money

hehe si ma rozosmial,

keso: nehovorim ze to bolo dobre zahrane, pri 99 som proste hral na supera ktoreho som aj uhral, lebo to bol predtym dost tuhy bluffer, to ze mal ruku a prisla 9 na turne bol luck samozrejme, ale je to big pot...

AA: odvaha ale aj nie, ak islo o prachy, nezobral by som tolko keby na to idem agresivne...

ako hrac NL400 by si mal vediet, ze v CG ide o long run a nie o konkretnu ruku, mas robit rozhodnutia ;)

to bedlak - nice :-D

..mas robit rozhodnutia, ktore su pre teba zsikove z dlhodobeho hladiska. Co by si robil, ak by checkol a turn by prisiel Qd ?

samozrejme ze by bol problem :)

Mozem sa spytat ako si sa dostal k bankrollu na nl400 ? vyhral si daky turnaj alebo si len proste vlozil velku sumu ? protoze tvoja hra fakt nevypada ze by si si ten bankroll vybudoval nejakou pracnou cestou :) teda ak ti to nevadi :D

vyzera to tak, ze "somNula" nehrava NL 400 pravidelne (pravdepodobne iba pocas tiltu ]:->)
- ak by hraval pravidelne tak by mal full buy in nie iba polovicu

ale mozno sa mylim a zabudol si len doplnit

hra s 99 vyzera, ze ho ovlada tilt (inak si neviem vysvetlit jeho rozhodnutia)
1. chyba - nizky rasie PF, ktory nevyzenie z hry absolutne nikoho
2. chyba - call na flope, z ktoreho nic nezistil. Proti hraci mohli mat cokolvek. Vzhladom na PF hru su vsak najpravdepodobnejsie tieto kombinacie - x10, set, flush draw (horsi pripad flush draw + one or two overcards napr. Jd Qd), gut shot straight draw. Overpair je nepravdepodny, kedze PF sa nenavysovalo. Pri vacsine je 99 pozadu.

Po flope mal len jeden out, ktory dostal. 9d by mu mozno nepomohla lebo treti hrac, ktory dorovnal bet 1/2 pot na flope mohol mat flush draw.

Podla mna mal prist na flope fold alebo raise (ak sa nechcel vzdat banku).
Raise
1. zistis na com si a mozes vyhnat z hry draw
2. izolujes hraca, ktory navysoval na flope a na ktoreho mas position
2. vytvoris si poziciu na bluf ak sa na turne objavi scare card.

Hrac spravil "chybny call" a chytil jeden out, ktory zostaval - PRETO JE POKER TAKY KRASNY
*THUMBS UP*

Hra s AA
- ak mam read na supera a je pravdepodobne, ze vsadi na flope tak s AA kludne zahram check-raise na flope. Ak super checkne a objavi sa nebezpecna karta napr Qd ako napisal keso. Tak to "zabije" celu akciu pretoze to vystrasi teba aj supera (ak nechytil flush).