-este k tym draws,nepochybuj,ze by som ich rad hral agresivne ako to robim aj v sng,ale na AP na tomto limite sa mi zda,ze mi hraci tieto "zle" calls dostatocne casto preplatia ak sa mi draw skompletizuje,niekedy aj flush,skoro vzdy str8 ak bola open a najlepsie ak pride skryta postupka

palo1973 napísal:-este k tym draws,nepochybuj,ze by som ich rad hral agresivne ako to robim aj v sng,ale na AP na tomto limite sa mi zda,ze mi hraci tieto "zle" calls dostatocne casto preplatia ak sa mi draw skompletizuje,niekedy aj flush,skoro vzdy str8 ak bola open a najlepsie ak pride skryta postupka

nie je dobre ucit sa low variance, avsak zle navyky, ktorych pouzitie proti lepsim hracom, ktorych bude vyssie len a len viac sposobia nahly unik bubakov

hlavne, ked nemas tracker a nemas casto predstavu (resp. ich sem aspon nepises), co je to za supera .. napr. v tamtej ruke Ti to este preslo kvoli jeho betu na riveri, ale ak by zahral check/fold, tak Ti call v tych situaciach prehra dost velku casto BR .. call je znacne okaty, lepsi hrac Ti to nezaplati, raisom donutis zlozis v tejto lajne casto silnejsie ruky a neuhadnu Tvoj draw .. takze by som povedal, ze to je way to go, pokial nemas ready na svojich superov v pote

-ok planujem sice kupit 3 knihy po 30 euro(som stara skola a mam rad papierove knihy,hlavne sa daju citat na zachode a vo vlaku),ale myslim,ze tych 50 euro na HM este najdem ,

-k tym readom,hravam naozaj kratsie session,nemam stats,len poznamky(inak nemiznu,to som sa pomylil),typu calling station,kedy blufuje,ci dorovnava potsize bet s FD/SD,a hram len 4 stoly takze si stiham aj zapisovat,vela napovie ak sa tam hrac pohybuje s 15 $ stackom,to reg nebude

Asi jednoduche,ale ako hrat podobne veci?Super dost loose,myslel som,ze trafil svoje A.


Absolute Poker $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 4 players - View hand 11833
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BB: $17.27
CO: $16.62
BTN: $26.40
Hero (SB): $52.27

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with 3 3
1 fold, BTN raises to $0.75, Hero calls $0.65, BB calls $0.50

Flop: ($2.25) 8 3 A (3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, BTN bets $1.12, Hero raises to $2.99, BB folds, BTN calls $1.87

Turn: ($8.23) 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $6.11, BTN folds

Final Pot: $8.23
Hero wins $7.84
(Rake: $0.39)

Ach tie mini 3bety,keby dal normalny tak zlozim,nie?


Absolute Poker $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 11837
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UTG: $12.92
MP: $12.69
CO: $20.50
Hero (BTN): $54.27
SB: $17.45
BB: $15.70

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BTN with 6 6
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, SB raises to $1.50, BB calls $1.25, Hero calls $0.75

Flop: ($4.50) 6 4 J (3 players)
SB bets $4.50, BB folds, Hero calls $4.50

Turn: ($13.50) T (2 players)
SB bets $11.45 all in, Hero calls $11.45

River: ($36.40) K (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $36.40
Hero shows 6 6 (Three of a kind, sixes)
SB shows A A (One pair, aces)
Hero wins $34.60
(Rake: $1.80)

palo1973 napísal:Asi jednoduche,ale ako hrat podobne veci?Super dost loose,myslel som,ze trafil svoje A.


Absolute Poker $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 4 players - View hand 11833
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BB: $17.27
CO: $16.62
BTN: $26.40
Hero (SB): $52.27

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with 3 3
1 fold, BTN raises to $0.75, Hero calls $0.65, BB calls $0.50

Flop: ($2.25) 8 3 A (3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, BTN bets $1.12, Hero raises to $2.99, BB folds, BTN calls $1.87

Turn: ($8.23) 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $6.11, BTN folds

Final Pot: $8.23
Hero wins $7.84
(Rake: $0.39)

Ja osobne 3betujem par proti BTN stealu. Jeho range byva casto tak siroky, ze call nema implied odds ani priblizne na trafenie setu a OOP bez iniciativy s nizkym parom nic neurobis.

Presne ten pripad vidis v tejto ruke. Eso tam vobec nemusi mat, moze kludne stealovat 30%+ ruk a c-betovat. Trafis a vacsinou z neho nic nedostanes, netrafis a foldnes. No vela inych veci ako check/raise na flope Ti nezostava, ak eso ma, tak nezlozi tak lahko a 2 barrelovanie na NL25 taky standard nie je, takze check/call a check nie je az taky skvely napad ako default. Check/call a bet je este divnejsi . Ak mas read, ze je dost aggro, tak mozes check/call a check/raise alebo check/call a maly bet na vypytanie si raisu. Osobne raisujem na flope viac - ak eso ma, zaplati o dost viac a chces vybudovat pot a hrat o cely stack.

Dufam, ze sa moja odpoved da ako-tak vylustit .

EDIT: samozrejme si davam pozor na stats, ak ma BTN vysoke ATS a teda stealuje dost, tak je to easy 3bet, ak tam mas uber nita, tak mozes call. Ale hrat proti nejakemu lepsiemu hracovi callom, to radsej 33 foldnem, ak nemam v BB nejakeho chlapika rozdavajuceho stacky a teda aj implied odds.

palo1973 napísal:Ach tie mini 3bety,keby dal normalny tak zlozim,nie?


Absolute Poker $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 11837
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UTG: $12.92
MP: $12.69
CO: $20.50
Hero (BTN): $54.27
SB: $17.45
BB: $15.70

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BTN with 6 6
3 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, SB raises to $1.50, BB calls $1.25, Hero calls $0.75

Flop: ($4.50) 6 4 J (3 players)
SB bets $4.50, BB folds, Hero calls $4.50

Turn: ($13.50) T (2 players)
SB bets $11.45 all in, Hero calls $11.45

River: ($36.40) K (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $36.40
Hero shows 6 6 (Three of a kind, sixes)
SB shows A A (One pair, aces)
Hero wins $34.60
(Rake: $1.80)

Ak je to fishka alebo nit, tak skor ano. Ak je to nejaky maniak, tak mas v ruke monster . Kedze maniakov zase pri stole tak casto nemas a regovia neminraisuju, tak ako default to callnut mozes, lebo zvycajne maju silnu ruku a na trafenie setu to mas tak tesne, ale predsa. Ak raisnu viac s takymi stackmi, tak uz odds nemas za predpokladu, ze trafis.
Na flope a turne zahrane v pohode .

A taketo hry su tam caste,tu neviem ako to hrat.


Absolute Poker $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 11842
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UTG: $65.54
MP: $39.75
CO: $30.86
Hero (BTN): $50.54
SB: $15.55
BB: $37.67

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BTN with A Q
1 fold, MP raises to $0.88, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.88, 2 folds

Flop: ($2.11) 9 5 T (2 players)
MP bets $1.22, Hero calls $1.22

Turn: ($4.55) 2 (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $2.77, MP calls $2.77

River: ($10.09) 2 (2 players)
MP checks, Hero checks

Final Pot: $10.09
MP shows 6 A (One pair, twos)
Hero shows A Q (One pair, twos)
Hero wins $9.61
(Rake: $0.48)

no zase, ked vies aky je super, a parkrat uvidis s cim raisuje MP, tak z buttonu AQs 3bet:)..
a inac si to zahral v principe dobre- floatol si flop s over s tym, ze si betol turn..na pripadny riverbet by si uz ale mal polozit

vidis, ze z MP raisuje slabe ruky a cbetuje ich..alternativne scenario je teda call PF a 3bet na flope a uvidi sa:)

palo1973 napísal:A taketo hry su tam caste,tu neviem ako to hrat.


Absolute Poker $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 11842
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UTG: $65.54
MP: $39.75
CO: $30.86
Hero (BTN): $50.54
SB: $15.55
BB: $37.67

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BTN with A Q
1 fold, MP raises to $0.88, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.88, 2 folds

Flop: ($2.11) 9 5 T (2 players)
MP bets $1.22, Hero calls $1.22

Turn: ($4.55) 2 (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $2.77, MP calls $2.77

River: ($10.09) 2 (2 players)
MP checks, Hero checks

Final Pot: $10.09
MP shows 6 A (One pair, twos)
Hero shows A Q (One pair, twos)
Hero wins $9.61
(Rake: $0.48)

IMO v pohode.

Podla hraca v pozicii casto 3betnem, ale call je podla mna no problemo. Ak mam pocit, ze ma zavola s horsou rukou, tak rad 3betnem. Ak je to viac nit, tak jeho callovaci range 3betu zrovna nejak extra neporazam, zatial co openraisujuci ano.

Float je okej, mas tam nejaku equity - 2 overcards a backdoor str8. Tento flop by sa mal dat aj raisnut, ak je chronicky c-beter. Bet na turne tiez OK, ked callne, tak moze mat nieco slabsie alebo pasivny str8 draw a 2 na riveri betovat je vcelku zbytocne, lebo ho to nejak casto nevyplasi ak ma ruku a s Ahi mas dokonca mas aj showdown hodnotu proti drawom, takze vytlacat ho nema zmysel IMO.

Tolko moj microstakes nazor .