praveze som shipol

River: ($0.85) 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $1.00, EdMe31 raises to $2, Hero raises to $7, EdMe31 raises to $9.04, Hero calls $2.04

Final Pot: $18.93
EdMe31 shows T J
EdMe31 wins $17.99

nejak som nechapal ten min reraise na riveri, tak by som mozno hral divne nejaky monster typu KK..som si nevsimol ze by tam mohla byt straight..neviem si predstavit s cim inym by takto hral

-ja som si to vsimol a to bola jedna z mala ruk co ta bila,ale toto ti casto urobi s K,pripadbe s nejakymi dvomi parmi,takze imo EV+,napriek tomu,ze nebol fishka

No podla mna dost zle zahrana ruka. Co Ta viedlo k tomu, ze ak necbetoval flop, tak veselo bude c-betovat turn ? Turn aj river mastne betujem.

Inak moj hand reading by pri takych stats nevedel, co ma robit. Ocakavalo by som od neho inu hru so setom, s overcards + drawom, s overpairom. Na riveri by mi bolo akurat tak jasne, ze raisuje for value, ale nebolo by mi uplne jasne, co moze mat a ako casto. Po tom, ako som videl showdown to objektivne nemoze byt . Hral to ako fishka.

chlapec asi necital ako nehrat preflop QQ ..po jeho reraise na povedzme 16BB by som zlozil, ale toto

Party Poker $10.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 21810
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SB: $9.17
BB: $9.13
UTG: $13.51
Hero (MP): $10.60
CO: $14.52
BTN: $10.38

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is MP with 9 9
UTG raises to $0.40, Hero calls $0.40, 2 folds, SB calls $0.35, BB calls $0.30

Flop: ($1.60) 9 T 2 (4 players)
SB checks, BB bets $1.60, UTG folds, Hero raises to $5, SB raises to $8.72, BB calls $7.12, Hero calls $3.72

Turn: ($27.76) 8 (3 players)

River: ($27.76) 9 well.. (3 players)

Final Pot: $27.76
SB shows Q Q
Hero shows 9 9
Hero wins $0.17
Hero wins $26.12
(Rake: $1.47)

btw. 180BB som este teda nevyhral v jednej hre

dnes to celkom slo aj ked som trochu prekvapeny mojimi stats (maly PFR - normal stats mavam nieco ako 19/13), nakolko som hral viacmenej svoj standard (asi mala vzorka ruk)



zopar ruk, kde by som rad pocul vase nazory..

1. fold?

villain 45/16/1.3

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prakiera (BTN): $14.70
InaRheem (SB): $14.77
Ivortd (BB): $3.34
Andi34 (UTG): $10.04
Kyy001 (MP): $11.53
Hero (CO): $10.73

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is CO with J J
Andi34 calls $0.10, Kyy001 calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.60, 3 folds, Andi34 calls $0.50, Kyy001 calls $0.50

Flop: ($1.95) Q J 9 (3 players)
Andi34 checks, Kyy001 checks, Hero bets $1.30, Andi34 folds, Kyy001 calls $1.30

Turn: ($4.55) 8 (2 players)
Kyy001 checks, Hero bets $3.00, Kyy001 raises to $9.63


2. dalo sa to vobec zahrat inak?

villain 55/23/3.6

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theluffsen (BB): $3.09
Hero (UTG): $10.12
OrdrupGym11 (CO): $9.21
orment (BTN): $5.51
LfK_MAN (SB): $4.96

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is UTG with J A
Hero raises to $0.40, 2 folds, LfK_MAN calls $0.35, theluffsen raises to $0.70, Hero calls $0.30, LfK_MAN calls $0.30

Flop: ($2.10) 2 9 J (3 players)
LfK_MAN checks, theluffsen bets $1.20, Hero raises to $3, LfK_MAN folds, theluffsen calls $1.19 all in

Turn: ($6.88) Q (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($6.88) K (2 players - 1 is all in)


3. tu som bol dost lost..

villain 56/10/1

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Hero (BTN): $11.44
SB: $17.02
BB: $10.02
CO: $5.48

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BTN with A Q
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.40, SB calls $0.35, 1 fold

Flop: ($0.90) 2 K 7 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.60, SB calls $0.60

Turn: ($2.10) Q (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.40, SB raises to $2.80, Hero?


4. ako by ste to hrali?

villain 57/8/2.5

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BTN: $10.34
SB: $9.55
Hero (BB): $9.86
UTG: $11.77
CO: $1.81

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BB with K 9
1 fold, CO calls $0.10, BTN calls $0.10, SB calls $0.05, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.40) 5 K 3 (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.25, CO folds, BTN folds, SB calls $0.25

Turn: ($0.90) 4 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.60, SB calls $0.60

River: ($2.10) 4 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.40, SB calls $1.40


5. bol to sice maniak z hry 2. ale..

villain 55/23/3.6

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UTG: $7.10
Hero (MP): $10.00
CO: $5.99
BTN: $13.17
SB: $6.31
BB: $10.10

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is MP with 8 8
UTG calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.50, 4 folds, UTG calls $0.40

Flop: ($1.15) 5 6 4 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $0.70, UTG raises to $2.80, Hero?


6. ako hrat OESD v tejto situacii?

villain 40/11/5.7

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Hero (SB): $14.70
BB: $3.58
BTN: $1.82

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is SB with 3 4
1 fold, Hero calls $0.05, BB checks

Flop: ($0.20) 5 T 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.15, BB raises to $0.30, Hero calls $0.15

Turn: ($0.80) 3 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.50, BB raises to $1, Hero calls $0.50

River: ($2.80) 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, BB checks

1. taky villain asi nie je schopny bluffu a casto tam tu desinu moze mat, kedze board je taky, aky je..navyse cek raisuje, mas investovane dost ale stale je to asi fold

2.ma maly stack neviem, ci je uplne vhodne callovat 3bet, neviem ake mal 3bet stats ale takito typci casto 3betuju len ruky, ktore ta dominuju a na flope nemas okrem JJ alebo str8 moc co trafit, mozno fold PF ale asi je to prilis weak. chyba mi 3bet stats na rozumnej vzorke ruk, pripadne daka vasa history, ci 3betoval light(co nepredpokladam)

3.hero check behind pre pot control a showdown value so svojim druhym parom.. jeho range je hrozne siroka a ty sa nepotrebujes nechat vytlacit, skor betovat vhodny river, ak checkne

4.taketo spoty nemam rad, ja z BB malokedy cekujem, ak cekujem tak tym v podstate 'foldujem ruku' resp musim mat napamati, ze tam mam x limperov ktory mozu mat any two a nikdy to tam moc netlacim, kym netrafim nejake ultra nuts
ja by som raisol pre flop ale ja nie som winning player tak moc nepocuvaj..

zrejme by ma to dostalo do headsupu a tam uz by sa Kcko do velkeho potu cbetovalo pekne, mozno ani potial by sa hra nedostala
5.betuje ta pomerne hovadsky, ale ak ti to robil na flope casto, asi by som mu to tam dotlacil, verim ze to robi aj s dvoma overs..trafenou 5kou..OESD..hocico..samozrejme cast range je aj overpair/set..

6.zase, ja by som tie 34 bud foldol alebo raisol, zavisi na superovi a ci rad folduje na steal..co taktyto typek asi nerad a nechcem s nim hrat takyto konektor OOP, tak skor fold a nerobim si s tym hlavu:)

EDIT:doplnene odstavce, aby to nevyzeralo ako z dediny

tucniak napísal:1. taky villain asi nie je schopny bluffu a casto tam tu desinu moze mat, kedze board je taky, aky je..navyse cek raisuje, mas investovane dost ale stale je to asi fold

nj zlozil som to

tucniak napísal:2.ma maly stack neviem, ci je uplne vhodne callovat 3bet, neviem ake mal 3bet stats ale takito typci casto 3betuju len ruky, ktore ta dominuju a na flope nemas okrem JJ alebo str8 moc co trafit, mozno fold PF ale asi je to prilis weak. chyba mi 3bet stats na rozumnej vzorke ruk, pripadne daka vasa history, ci 3betoval light(co nepredpokladam)

nj akurat ze ten jeho "3bet" vlastne asi ani nebol 3bet, dorovnat 3BB ked som uz dal 4 by som asi mal, ci? ale je pravda ze maniakalneho shorta asi nevytlacim nicim..

tucniak napísal:3.hero check behind pre pot control a showdown value so svojim druhym parom.. jeho range je hrozne siroka a ty sa nepotrebujes nechat vytlacit, skor betovat vhodny river, ak checkne

cize nie bet ale check turn a podla riveru c/f?

tucniak napísal:4.taketo spoty nemam rad, ja z BB malokedy cekujem, ak cekujem tak tym v podstate 'foldujem ruku' resp musim mat napamati, ze tam mam x limperov ktory mozu mat any two a nikdy to tam moc netlacim, kym netrafim nejake ultra nuts
ja by som raisol pre flop ale ja nie som winning player tak moc nepocuvaj..

zrejme by ma to dostalo do headsupu a tam uz by sa Kcko do velkeho potu cbetovalo pekne, mozno ani potial by sa hra nedostala

ani ja toto nemam rad, ale rovnako nerad betujem z BB ked mam marginalnu handu a casto ma dorovna Ax a po flope bez K som OOP viacmenej mrtvy aj proti A2..

nejak som dufal, ze ma prinajlepsom slabsie K

tucniak napísal:5.betuje ta pomerne hovadsky, ale ak ti to robil na flope casto, asi by som mu to tam dotlacil, verim ze to robi aj s dvoma overs..trafenou 5kou..OESD..hocico..samozrejme cast range je aj overpair/set..

nj asi by som bol nasrany keby som to callol proti maniakovi a on ukazal overpair

tucniak napísal:6.zase, ja by som tie 34 bud foldol alebo raisol, zavisi na superovi a ci rad folduje na steal..co taktyto typek asi nerad a nechcem s nim hrat takyto konektor OOP, tak skor fold a nerobim si s tym hlavu:)

tiez myslim ze by som si usetril problemy, keby som to pf zahodil a zvlast proti hracovi co aj raisuje pf

jj tie 3bb a min 3bet som si nevsimol, to je potom jedno asi, ale ak ne3betuje skoro nic tak ak aj 3betuje ako kok, dava ti info, ze ma ruku..

No tu je moj osobny nazorik na tie handy. V niektorych veciach sa evidentne s tucniakom nezhodujeme, ale to je len dobre, aspon na sto nauci .

1) ak by mal aj AT, tak mas 26% sancu na vyhru a s tymi pot odds je to relativne tesny fold .. ak si vies predstavit, ze by tam mohol mat obcas 2 pary alebo set, tak to moze byt kludne call

2) no preflop urcite call .. 55/23/3.6 moze mat kludne aj coinflipovy par, keby to bola 55/3/1 fisha, tak to je ine kafe .. taktiez budes mat v pote dalsiu fishku, takze je tam sanca na pekny zisk .. za 0.30 naviac mas sancu ziskat 20x tolko v pohode .. na flope to uz samozrejme nezlozim

3) nemyslim si, ze by sme mali hrat pot control .. keby to bol agresivny hrac, co casto bluffraisuje a my nechceme s MPTK hrat o stack, tak veselo checknem a callnem na riveri bet, ale kedze je to superpasivna megafishka, tak veselo valuebetujem - moze mat PP, moze mat 7, mohla trafit Q s horsim kickerom, taktiez tu donutis platit draw, kdezto na riveri uz nie .. MPTK je tu nuts, no akonahle raisne, tak je to jasna vec, ani by som to necalloval, pretoze nie sme popredu a nemame dobre odds, aby sme sa snazili to na riveri dobehnut

4) zahral by som to tak, betujem proti nemu for value .. je to calling station a proti jeho range si favorit

5) mozno je to zle, ale ja sa tu pravdupovediac stackujem, overpair je tu nuts - moze mat par, SD, FD alebo obycajne overs .. taktiez mas vacsinou 4 outs, ak si pozadu

6) no ja tiez radsej fold ako openlimp .. call flop minraise je povinnost, ale ja skor check/fold turn, donk je sice fajn, ze si nasilne vytvoris odds, ale aj tak to malokedy foldne, takze vlastne investujes peniaze bez fold equity a bez hotovej ruky

Hra 1 : (dole je k tomu prilozeny obrazok) , tym svojim betom na turne chces co dosiahnut ? Nevidim tam ani jednu ruku ktora ta dolozi , ktoru bijes, ten bet by ani nebol taky zly ak by ste mali 2x take stacky, ale kedze mate take ake mate tak si sa dostal absolutne do najhorsej moznej situacie kde mas 26% na to ze ti pride FullHouse a odds na call mas 3:1. A on ma v tejto situacii horsiu ruku ako ty asi tak 2-3x zo 100 pripadov
Ten tvoj bet na turne je vlastne bluff.
Check behind turn , ak ma T , betne river aj ked sa board sparuje a na tvoj push to 40+ Vpip hrac instacallne, Ak by dal na riveri pol potu napriklad , kludne mozes dolozit... bolo by vela ruk ktore bijes. Este aj keby checkol river tak idem proti nemu Bet/fold s tym setom.

Hra 2 : nedalo proti 30BB shortovi 53/36 je TPTK nuts

Hra 3 : Turn preboha check , pre lacny SD , co chces aby ta tam dolozilo slabsie ? , na ten C/R insta fold.

Hra 4 : Tak ako ty asi , ten river by som betol skor ako blocking bet asi si to aj tak myslel , ta vyska je tiez dobra ani velka ani zase mala aby neindukovala bluff,
Dalsia moznost mozno este lepsia je nechat ho bluffnut , lebo je tam busted Flush draw a aj Straight draw, ale zase nedostanes value od takych ruk uz ako napr 66-QQ, A5,A3 , takze asi skor ten bet.

Hra 5 : Push , 70BB s overparom + Gutshot je dobry na neho, agresivita 3,6 u hraca s VPIP 56 , ak si to hodis do Pokerstove uvidis aky srot hraje a hraje ho agresivne. A push preto lebo on je schopny to spravit aj s hocijakymi obrazkovymi kartami a tie sa mozu objavit na turne a druhy dovod ze on velmi rad dolozi tvoj push aj s OESD alebo s TP.

Hrat 6 : C/F turn , ono ta 3ojka na turne ti zabija dost akciu lebo ak ti na river pride postupka uz bude moc priehladna.. a nedostanes sa k nejakemu navyseniu potu ... implied odds mas extra male.