Tak dnes som si pozeral HH zo vcera a zaujmalo by ma co si mysliteo tejto ruke?? ako by ste zahrali river??? Hrate proti 22/13/2.6 WTSD 15, W$SD 100...... 100ruk???

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UTG: $2.63
UTG+1: $5.00
MP: $2.26
CO: $4.17
BTN: $3.40
Hero (SB): $5.00
BB: $5.03

Pre Flop: ($0.06) Hero is SB with K K
5 folds, Hero raises to $0.16, BB calls $0.12

Flop: ($0.32) A Q T (2 players)
Hero bets $0.23, BB calls $0.23

Turn: ($0.78) 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.56, BB calls $0.56

River: ($1.90) J (2 players)
Hero bets $1.35, BB raises to $2.93, Hero ????

imo c/f turn, neuvadzas staty na fcb ale ten WTS a W$SD vyzera hrozivo - teda ked mi callne cbet. sice je to mala vzorka ale mne pripada ako keby hral vyslovene na monstre . nevidim horsiu ruku na turne ktoru ti takyto hrac zaplati tak by som skusil ci mi neda free card na redraw na nutflush. bet by som dorovnal na turne len vtedy ked by mi dal priame odds na call s FD (nakolko moj PP je uz pozadu) lebo myslim ze ak dorazi 4. do flushu na river nedostanes z neho stack ani ak by mal Qhi flush imo cize s nejakymi implied odds velmi ratat nemozes.

as played musis uz callnut a podla mna ti otoci nieco ako QJdd

Mas pravdu proti takemu superovy budem velmi casto na turne uz pozadu a ten C-F sa mi pozdava ..... ukazal 8d9d

Tak dnes som kratko po sebe musel celit dvom over betom na turne kde doskakala 3. karta do farby .... Priklanate sa skor ku callom alebo foldom?? Podla coho sa hlavne v takychto situaciach rozhodovat??

1. hrate proti 16/8/2 WTSD 20 W$SD 42

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MP1: $4.99
MP2: $1.93
CO: $6.17
BTN: $1.59
SB: $4.60
Hero (BB): $5.63
UTG: $2.16
UTG+1: $5.39

Pre Flop: ($0.06) Hero is BB with K K
UTG calls $0.04, UTG+1 calls $0.04, 2 folds, CO raises to $0.12, 1 fold, SB calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.40, 2 folds, CO calls $0.28, SB calls $0.28

Flop: ($1.28) 7 8 8 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.91, CO calls $0.91, SB calls $0.91

Turn: ($4.01) 9 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, CO bets $4.86 all in, SB folds, Hero ???????


2. hrate proti 34/15/2 WTSD 27 W$SD 40

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UTG+1: $5.00
MP1: $4.86
Hero (MP2): $5.62
CO: $6.18
BTN: $4.80
SB: $7.35
BB: $5.00
UTG: $6.45

Pre Flop: ($0.06) Hero is MP2 with A A
UTG calls $0.04, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.24, 2 folds, SB calls $0.22, 1 fold, UTG calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.76) 8 5 2 (3 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $0.54, SB calls $0.54, UTG folds

Turn: ($1.84) 7 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.91, SB raises to $6.57 all in, Hero ?????

Obe su snapfold. Musis sa naucit zahadzovat v takych situaciach overpairy bez tazkosti .

1) Nit betuje do 3 ludi - FH alebo flush vacsinu casu a Tvoj pocet outov moze byt niekedy aj 2 a je nemas ani priblizne odds na call.
2) Giganticky overbet a ziadny redraw, ak ten flush ma. Urcite nebluffuje/semibluffuje dost casto, aby sa ten call oplatil bez dodatocnych extra extra extra silnych readov .

dzejkej napísal:....

Ja som samozrejme v obidvoch pripadoch callol . Dllho som rozmyslal co by mohli mat ale neslo mi dohlavy preco to tam natlacili full a aj preto som neodolal a priklonil sa ku callu... keby nedali allin ale len rozumne betli tak zlozim urcite skor ale toto mi prislo tak ze ma tam jednoducho nechu .....

PS: Vynimka potvrdzuje pravidlo.....

Party Poker $5 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players - View hand 268598
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MP1: $4.99
MP2: $1.93
CO: $6.17
BTN: $1.59
SB: $4.60
Hero (BB): $5.63
UTG: $2.16
UTG+1: $5.39

Pre Flop: ($0.06) Hero is BB with K K
UTG calls $0.04, UTG+1 calls $0.04, 2 folds, CO raises to $0.12, 1 fold, SB calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.40, 2 folds, CO calls $0.28, SB calls $0.28

Flop: ($1.28) 7 8 8 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.91, CO calls $0.91, SB calls $0.91

Turn: ($4.01) 9 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, CO bets $4.86 all in, SB folds, Hero calls $4.32 all in

River: ($12.65) A (2 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: $12.65
CO shows J J (two pairs, Jacks and Eights)
Hero shows K K (two pairs, Kings and Eights)
Hero wins $12.02
(Rake: $0.63)



Party Poker $5 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players - View hand 268605
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UTG+1: $5.00
MP1: $4.86
Hero (MP2): $5.62
CO: $6.18
BTN: $4.80
SB: $7.35
BB: $5.00
UTG: $6.45

Pre Flop: ($0.06) Hero is MP2 with A A
UTG calls $0.04, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.24, 2 folds, SB calls $0.22, 1 fold, UTG calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.76) 8 5 2 (3 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $0.54, SB calls $0.54, UTG folds

Turn: ($1.84) 7 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.91, SB raises to $6.57 all in, Hero calls $3.93 all in

River: ($11.52) 6 (2 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: $11.52
Hero shows A A (a pair of Aces)
SB shows A T (high card Ace)
SB wins $1.73
Hero wins $10.95
(Rake: $-1.16)

Oba Tvoje cally tu su fakt fakt zle .

Ked automaticky callujes s overpairmi all-iny na boardoch, kde su mozne flushe a postupky a nemas specificke ready, tak nieco nie je v poriadku. Dovod, ze niekto ide all-in moc na call nie je a skor im umozni velmi jednoducho dostat proti Tebe peniaze do potu rychlo a Ty sa outlevelnes ku callu. Ak Ti napr. z 6 callov vyjdu 2, neznamena to, ze zarabas .

Learn to fold.

Tak tak viem o tom.....mno budem musiet este na tom popracovat, aby som vzdy ten spravny moment dokazal zahodit aj AA KK a ine over pary

Marad13 napísal:Tak tak viem o tom.....mno budem musiet este na tom popracovat, aby som vzdy ten spravny moment dokazal zahodit aj AA KK a ine over pary

No staci to robit vtedy, ked je board nebezpecny a v superovom range je vela veci for value, ktore porazaju jeden overpair . To, ze callnes all-iny, kde ma napr. na 80% 2pary+ a 20% bluff a trafis bluff nerobi ten call dobrym .

Zacni foldovat viac napr. tu:
1) Vacsinou rozdivoceni pasivni hraci + koordinovane boardy su najjednoduchsi fold a zacni napr. s tym.
2) Taktiez hrac call cbet na flope a na turne zacne raisovat. Tu je to casto for value, lebo drawy sa lahsie bluffuju na flope, kde maju 2x taku sancu na vyhru.
3) Stredne koordinovane boardy su nebezpecne vs preflop caller velmi casto, lebo hromadu casu, ked blbne tak tam ma 2pary, par + draw a ine vacsie draw, a pod. a proti nim na tom dobre nie si.

Mozes mi pls vysvetlit aky to je koordinovany board...Nemam v tom neak jasno THX