problematicka ruka - babo rad
Re: problematicka ruka - babo rad
zase si uvedom, co od toho chces pred flopom..callujes jeho raise-setmining..set netriafa a on ti svojim betom nedava bohvieake odds na tahanie GUTSHOTU..ak teda este takto neskoro dobre vidim:)
fold flop imo
fold flop imo
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Re: problematicka ruka - babo rad
hm ked sa na to este raz pozeram tak na ten jeho cbet by este odds boli ale ten turn mal byt uz fold
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Re: problematicka ruka - babo rad
tucniak ma pravdu, predsedo
limp a call raisu je pohoda - to, ze tym davas celkom najavo svoj range tu moc riesit nemusime, to na takych stakes nikoho nezaujima, cize dalej ..
flop nie je to, co sme si predstavovali, set ziadny, ale mas draw .. priame odds na call nemas a to ani keby Ti checkol turn, immplied odds, co znamena suma, ktoru zaplati, ked ruku trafis, tak tie su zufalo male, pretoze ak trafis, tak budu na stole 4 karty do postupky a 1 out zo 4 je mozny flush, pri ktorom ak zacne moc divocit, tak mas problem Ty a ak on flush mat nebude, tak to zaplati este o to menej
takze hrat to dalej kvoli hodnote ruky moc rozumne nie je, otazkou je este bluffovat, no problem je, ze jeho range je tu relativne siroky, kludne mohol nieco trafit alebo je draw a aspon z mojho letmeho kuk na stats nevyzera, ze by bolo jeho mottom foldovanie, ba naopak, takze by som to pekne na flope foldoch a skusil inokedy .. + bluffovanie na micro nie je prilis odporucana zarobkova cinnost
EDIT: no som sa mrkol lepsie na tie stats a zase tak siroky range tu nema, ale tak overpair nepolozi, trafit to az tak casto zrovna netrafi - vacsinou tak set, len problem je, ze ta vzorka ruk na stats je mala a hraci maju casto tendenciu raise na flope callnut aj s high-cards, ak to nie su nejaki viac tight regulari a potom ak betne turn, fold a ak checkne, tak bluffujes prakticky o svoj stack - WSD nevidim, ale IMO stale hlupost, proti takym hracom je vzdy rozumnejsie spoliehat sa na betovanie for value .. call je najhorsia moznost, lebo aspon z tych mala je vidno, ze ak betne flop, tak rad betuje aj turn, cize moc pocitat s tym, ze checkne, nemozes .. uff, asi stacilo k tejto ruke
limp a call raisu je pohoda - to, ze tym davas celkom najavo svoj range tu moc riesit nemusime, to na takych stakes nikoho nezaujima, cize dalej ..
flop nie je to, co sme si predstavovali, set ziadny, ale mas draw .. priame odds na call nemas a to ani keby Ti checkol turn, immplied odds, co znamena suma, ktoru zaplati, ked ruku trafis, tak tie su zufalo male, pretoze ak trafis, tak budu na stole 4 karty do postupky a 1 out zo 4 je mozny flush, pri ktorom ak zacne moc divocit, tak mas problem Ty a ak on flush mat nebude, tak to zaplati este o to menej
takze hrat to dalej kvoli hodnote ruky moc rozumne nie je, otazkou je este bluffovat, no problem je, ze jeho range je tu relativne siroky, kludne mohol nieco trafit alebo je draw a aspon z mojho letmeho kuk na stats nevyzera, ze by bolo jeho mottom foldovanie, ba naopak, takze by som to pekne na flope foldoch a skusil inokedy .. + bluffovanie na micro nie je prilis odporucana zarobkova cinnost
EDIT: no som sa mrkol lepsie na tie stats a zase tak siroky range tu nema, ale tak overpair nepolozi, trafit to az tak casto zrovna netrafi - vacsinou tak set, len problem je, ze ta vzorka ruk na stats je mala a hraci maju casto tendenciu raise na flope callnut aj s high-cards, ak to nie su nejaki viac tight regulari a potom ak betne turn, fold a ak checkne, tak bluffujes prakticky o svoj stack - WSD nevidim, ale IMO stale hlupost, proti takym hracom je vzdy rozumnejsie spoliehat sa na betovanie for value .. call je najhorsia moznost, lebo aspon z tych mala je vidno, ze ak betne flop, tak rad betuje aj turn, cize moc pocitat s tym, ze checkne, nemozes .. uff, asi stacilo k tejto ruke
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Re: problematicka ruka - babo rad
Mozem poprosit o nazory aj na tuto hru. Ako by ste to hrali vy po flope? Bola to uplne prva hra pri stole. Samozrejme vidim moznost postupky.
€0.50/€1.00 Texas Hold'em (No Limit) - Fri Jan 02 17:11:17 GMT 2009
Table White Snow (10 max) (Real Money) -- Seat 3 is the button
Seat 1: 24_7 (€100)
Seat 2: POPSTAR (€286.42)
Seat 3: Stockholm (€79.35)
Seat 4: checkmc (€41.20)
Seat 5: 1zaet1 (€100)
Seat 6: pockerass (€20)
Seat 7: ALL_IN_NBG_1 (€60.20)
Seat 8: 0815 (€99)
Seat 9: Zorrro (€76.79)
Seat 10: kingsman (€104.05)
checkmc : Small Blind (€0.50)
1zaet1 : Big Blind (€1)
** Dealing Down Cards **
Dealt to 1zaet1 [ 5s 5h ]
ALL_IN_NBG_1 : Fold
0815 : Raise (€5)
Zorrro : Call (€5)
kingsman : Fold
24_7 : Fold
POPSTAR : Fold
Stockholm : Fold
checkmc : Fold
1zaet1 : Call (€4)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 5d 6h 4s ]
1zaet1 : Check
0815 : Bet (€12)
Zorrro : Fold
1zaet1 : Raise (€30)
0815 : Raise (€94)
1zaet1 : Call (€64)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Qc ]
** Dealing River ** : [ Kc ]
1zaet1 : Shows [ 5s 5h ]
0815 : Shows [ Td Th ]
** Summary **
Main Pot: €200.50 | Rake: €3
Board: [ 5d 6h 4s Qc Kc ]
24_7 didn't bet
POPSTAR didn't bet
Stockholm didn't bet
checkmc lost €0.50 (folded)
1zaet1 bet €99, collected €200.50, net €+101.50 [ 5s 5h ] [ three of a kind, fives -- 5s 5h 5d Kc Qc ]
ALL_IN_NBG_1 didn't bet
0815 lost €99 [ Td Th ] [ one pair of tens -- Th Td Kc Qc 6h ]
Zorrro lost €5 (folded)
kingsman didn't bet
1zaet1 wins €200.50 from the main pot with three of a kind, fives
€0.50/€1.00 Texas Hold'em (No Limit) - Fri Jan 02 17:11:17 GMT 2009
Table White Snow (10 max) (Real Money) -- Seat 3 is the button
Seat 1: 24_7 (€100)
Seat 2: POPSTAR (€286.42)
Seat 3: Stockholm (€79.35)
Seat 4: checkmc (€41.20)
Seat 5: 1zaet1 (€100)
Seat 6: pockerass (€20)
Seat 7: ALL_IN_NBG_1 (€60.20)
Seat 8: 0815 (€99)
Seat 9: Zorrro (€76.79)
Seat 10: kingsman (€104.05)
checkmc : Small Blind (€0.50)
1zaet1 : Big Blind (€1)
** Dealing Down Cards **
Dealt to 1zaet1 [ 5s 5h ]
ALL_IN_NBG_1 : Fold
0815 : Raise (€5)
Zorrro : Call (€5)
kingsman : Fold
24_7 : Fold
POPSTAR : Fold
Stockholm : Fold
checkmc : Fold
1zaet1 : Call (€4)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 5d 6h 4s ]
1zaet1 : Check
0815 : Bet (€12)
Zorrro : Fold
1zaet1 : Raise (€30)
0815 : Raise (€94)
1zaet1 : Call (€64)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Qc ]
** Dealing River ** : [ Kc ]
1zaet1 : Shows [ 5s 5h ]
0815 : Shows [ Td Th ]
** Summary **
Main Pot: €200.50 | Rake: €3
Board: [ 5d 6h 4s Qc Kc ]
24_7 didn't bet
POPSTAR didn't bet
Stockholm didn't bet
checkmc lost €0.50 (folded)
1zaet1 bet €99, collected €200.50, net €+101.50 [ 5s 5h ] [ three of a kind, fives -- 5s 5h 5d Kc Qc ]
ALL_IN_NBG_1 didn't bet
0815 lost €99 [ Td Th ] [ one pair of tens -- Th Td Kc Qc 6h ]
Zorrro lost €5 (folded)
kingsman didn't bet
1zaet1 wins €200.50 from the main pot with three of a kind, fives
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Re: problematicka ruka - babo rad
Ja si myslím, že OK. 78,23,66 je podľa málo na otvorenie z MP na FR.
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Re: problematicka ruka - babo rad
standard, sety sa nefolduju
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Re: problematicka ruka - babo rad
Tak tak, za 1BI set nepoložím ani na jednofarebnom flope s možnosťou postupky
A na FR asi tiež nie, hlavne pokiaľ investujem 35% svojho stacku
A na FR asi tiež nie, hlavne pokiaľ investujem 35% svojho stacku
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Re: problematicka ruka - babo rad
Tak som narazil, aj ked som to zahral normalne si myslim
€0.50/€1.00 Texas Hold'em (No Limit) - Fri Jan 02 19:38:04 GMT 2009
Table White Snow (10 max) (Real Money) -- Seat 4 is the button
Seat 1: Vitalok (€119.50)
Seat 3: Falle7 (€20)
Seat 4: Terror328 (€107.35)
Seat 5: 1zaet1 (€295.95)
Seat 6: pockerass (€21.42)
Seat 7: TripleUi (€72.30)
Seat 8: Dracula (€15.75)
Seat 9: BloddyMarry (€101.03) sits out
Seat 10: kingsman (€187.90)
1zaet1 : Small Blind (€0.50)
pockerass : Big Blind (€1)
Falle7 : Big Blind (€1)
** Dealing Down Cards **
Dealt to 1zaet1 [ Ah Ac ]
TripleUi : Fold
Dracula : Call (€1)
kingsman : Fold
Vitalok : Fold
Falle7 : Check
Terror328 : Raise (€4)
1zaet1 : Raise (€14)
pockerass : Fold
Dracula : Fold
Falle7 : Fold
Terror328 : Call (€10)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 9c Th 3d ]
1zaet1 : Bet (€24)
Terror328 : Raise (€93.35)
1zaet1 : Call (€69.35)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 6h ]
** Dealing River ** : [ Js ]
1zaet1 : Shows [ Ah Ac ]
Terror328 : Shows [ Jc Jd ]
** Summary **
Main Pot: €214.70 | Rake: €3
Board: [ 9c Th 3d 6h Js ]
Vitalok didn't bet
Falle7 lost €1 (folded)
Terror328 bet €107.35, collected €214.70, net €+107.35 [ Jc Jd ] [ three of a kind, jacks -- Js Jd Jc Th 9c ]
1zaet1 lost €107.35 [ Ah Ac ] [ one pair of aces -- Ah Ac Js Th 9c ]
pockerass lost €1 (folded)
TripleUi didn't bet
Dracula lost €1 (folded)
BloddyMarry didn't bet sits out
kingsman didn't bet
Terror328 wins €214.70 from the main pot with three of a kind, jacks
€0.50/€1.00 Texas Hold'em (No Limit) - Fri Jan 02 19:38:04 GMT 2009
Table White Snow (10 max) (Real Money) -- Seat 4 is the button
Seat 1: Vitalok (€119.50)
Seat 3: Falle7 (€20)
Seat 4: Terror328 (€107.35)
Seat 5: 1zaet1 (€295.95)
Seat 6: pockerass (€21.42)
Seat 7: TripleUi (€72.30)
Seat 8: Dracula (€15.75)
Seat 9: BloddyMarry (€101.03) sits out
Seat 10: kingsman (€187.90)
1zaet1 : Small Blind (€0.50)
pockerass : Big Blind (€1)
Falle7 : Big Blind (€1)
** Dealing Down Cards **
Dealt to 1zaet1 [ Ah Ac ]
TripleUi : Fold
Dracula : Call (€1)
kingsman : Fold
Vitalok : Fold
Falle7 : Check
Terror328 : Raise (€4)
1zaet1 : Raise (€14)
pockerass : Fold
Dracula : Fold
Falle7 : Fold
Terror328 : Call (€10)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 9c Th 3d ]
1zaet1 : Bet (€24)
Terror328 : Raise (€93.35)
1zaet1 : Call (€69.35)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 6h ]
** Dealing River ** : [ Js ]
1zaet1 : Shows [ Ah Ac ]
Terror328 : Shows [ Jc Jd ]
** Summary **
Main Pot: €214.70 | Rake: €3
Board: [ 9c Th 3d 6h Js ]
Vitalok didn't bet
Falle7 lost €1 (folded)
Terror328 bet €107.35, collected €214.70, net €+107.35 [ Jc Jd ] [ three of a kind, jacks -- Js Jd Jc Th 9c ]
1zaet1 lost €107.35 [ Ah Ac ] [ one pair of aces -- Ah Ac Js Th 9c ]
pockerass lost €1 (folded)
TripleUi didn't bet
Dracula lost €1 (folded)
BloddyMarry didn't bet sits out
kingsman didn't bet
Terror328 wins €214.70 from the main pot with three of a kind, jacks
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Re: problematicka ruka - babo rad
jasne, to by na flope nikto nefoldoval
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Re: problematicka ruka - babo rad
Dostať do do AI na flope, kde si 9:1 favorit.
WP sir
WP sir
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