***** Hand History for Game 6339749526 *****
$10 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Wednesday, September 19, 07:54:13 ET 2007
Table Table 127907 (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: UriyAntill ( $2.05 USD )
Seat 3: zweepie19 ( $11.22 USD )
Seat 4: TGVdrunk ( $10.26 USD )
Seat 5: asusya1985 ( $2 USD )
Seat 6: bluck78 ( $6.75 USD )
Seat 7: ConstantinS ( $1.65 USD )
Seat 8: Batya555 ( $9.50 USD )
Seat 9: nailzR ( $1.54 USD )
Seat 10: xbsol ( $2.51 USD )
Seat 2: arpinoSK ( $1.56 USD )
arpinoSK posts small blind [$0.05 USD].
zweepie19 posts big blind [$0.10 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to arpinoSK [ Ac Kh ]
TGVdrunk folds
bluck78 calls [$0.10 USD]
ConstantinS folds
Batya555 calls [$0.10 USD]
nailzR calls [$0.10 USD]
xbsol folds
UriyAntill folds
arpinoSK raises [$0.65 USD]
zweepie19 calls [$0.60 USD]
bluck78 calls [$0.60 USD]
Batya555 calls [$0.60 USD]
nailzR is all-In [$1.44 USD]
arpinoSK is all-In [$0.86 USD]
zweepie19 calls [$0.86 USD]
bluck78 calls [$0.86 USD]
Batya555 calls [$0.86 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 2s, Kc, 8c ]
zweepie19 bets [$0.40 USD]
bluck78 raises [$1 USD]
Batya555 folds
>You have options at Table 127910 Table!.
zweepie19 calls [$0.60 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ Ts ]
zweepie19 checks
bluck78 bets [$1 USD]
zweepie19 folds
** Dealing River ** [ 6c ]
bluck78 shows [ 9c, 9s ]a pair of Nines.
nailzR shows [ Tc, Ah ]a pair of Tens.
arpinoSK shows [ Ac, Kh ]a pair of Kings.
bluck78 wins $2.90 USD from side pot #2 with a pair of Nines.
arpinoSK wins $0.08 USD from side pot #1 with a pair of Kings.
arpinoSK wins $7.32 USD from the main pot with a pair of Kings.

tieto hry s QQ a AK ti ukazuju yegon, preco je dobre hrat shortstack strategiu.
Na tychto limitoch(10$,25$) ti kludne podorovnavaju monsters karty s uplnymi koninami,potom sa navzajom vyblafuju,niektori pocas hry foldnu,a na konci bud vela vyhras alebo malo prehras.
Ja uz tiez asi mesiac hram takto 25$NL a kontinualne s malymi vykyvmi vyhravam.Prestal som hrat aj STG.

Niekde na internete som sa dokonca docital,ze pre zaciatocnikov je nezmyselne hrat s plnym stackom,ale pravdepodobne skuseni hraci naschval vytvaraju dojem,ze je to spravne,aby zaciatocnikov dobre podojili.

tiez sa priklanam....ze treba obcas(a mozno aj castejsie) hravat shortstack strategiu...ja som hraval POT limit OMAHA HI LO..nizke limity...a vsetky moje all iny...kym som mal amlo boli sprehladom dorovnane...(este lepsie bolo ked sa tam dvaja all inovali:D)..tam to malo jeidny hacik..s akymi kartmi dorovnat mrte raise:D..ale o tom inde a inokedy:-)..tiez som za hravat shortstack strategiu

Short stack ma jednu velku vyhodu aj nevyhodu. Kedze ste shortstack, tak nemate absolutne ziadny respekt u superov. Dorovnaju vam s ovela slabsou rukou, kedze neriskuju vela zo svojho stacku. Nevyhodou je, ze im to z casu na cas doskace :) ..no a sem-tam sa zadari nieco aj z blindov, ako je vidiet nizsie :)

***** Hand History for Game 6342246406 *****
$10 USD NL Texas Hold'em - Thursday, September 20, 06:42:24 ET 2007
Table Table 127956 (Real Money)
Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 3: Zorrrrg ( $11.69 USD )
Seat 6: hiemme ( $12.40 USD )
Seat 7: slawomirek32 ( $11.61 USD )
Seat 8: asusya1985 ( $1.79 USD )
Seat 10: ZONiii ( $1.90 USD )
Seat 5: arpinoSK ( $1.85 USD )
Seat 9: ElenKa81 ( $4.60 USD )
Seat 1: TP1980 ( $0 USD )
Seat 4: gigzie ( $2.80 USD )
gigzie posts small blind [$0.05 USD].
arpinoSK posts big blind [$0.10 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to arpinoSK [ 9h 9d ]
TP1980 has left the table.
hiemme folds
slawomirek32 folds
asusya1985 folds
ElenKa81 calls [$0.10 USD]
ZONiii folds
gigzie raises [$0.15 USD]
arpinoSK calls [$0.10 USD]
>You have options at Table 127667 Table!.
ElenKa81 calls [$0.10 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 5c, 3c, 7s ]
gigzie bets [$0.10 USD]
arpinoSK raises [$0.60 USD]
ElenKa81 calls [$0.60 USD]
gigzie calls [$0.50 USD]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 3s ]
>You have options at Table 126004 Table!.
gigzie checks
>You have options at Table 127116 Table!.

>You have options at Table 127667 Table!.
arpinoSK is all-In [$1.05 USD]
ElenKa81 calls [$1.05 USD]
gigzie calls [$1.05 USD]
>You have options at Table 127667 Table!.
** Dealing River ** [ 9s ]
gigzie is all-In [$0.95 USD]
ElenKa81 calls [$0.95 USD]
>You have options at Table 127667 Table!.
gigzie shows [ Ac, 9c ]two pairs, Nines and Threes.
arpinoSK shows [ 9h, 9d ]a full house, Nines full of Threes.
ElenKa81 shows [ 7h, 4h ]two pairs, Sevens and Threes.
gigzie wins $1.80 USD from side pot #1 with two pairs, Nines and Threes.
arpinoSK wins $5.28 USD from the main pot with a full house, Nines full of Threes.

ked hrate niekto tuto shortstack taktiku kedy to treba zabalit??...terza osm si vybral stol s tipkom s velkym stackom co stale raisoval...pockal som si na karty a obral ho asik 3-4 krat na all ine...spravil som z 2 USD nejakych skoro 20 USD....a reku ze este par ruk a idem het...a doskace KK...tak ze posledna... na jeho raise reraise on zase raise ja call...flop nizky rainbow...tak all in...on okamzite call(potesim sa ze trafil par asik)uz turn mi ukazel ze som sa tesil marne...

jak pisal keso...obcas im to aj doskace:-(

ale pri hentom "maniakovi" by sa dalo krasne zarobit...len nabuduce budem asik cakat az na river..raisol 4 z 5-tich hier nic mohutne ale bol to raise 4BB minimum...vzdy som cakal aspon flop...a podla toho dal all in abo raise... proste nabuduce ho oberem:D

inak keso dik za napad hrat shortstacka*THUMBS UP*...ale ked to tak spatne berem prehral som 2 USD :D

no aby som dokoncil ten maniak zacal z 10 USD a jak som ho tak potom sledoval tak skakal medzi 10 - 60 USD sledoval som ho asik 40 hier
asik 30-35 hier raise preflop..casom zvysil raise preflop na 6-8 BB..ale stale hral desne kraviny(vtipne bolo potom kukat jak mu tam doleteli flopy)

sem tam vyhras, sem tam prehras na tom nezalezi, na tychto mikro stoloch az po NL50 je podla mna najlepsie cakat na dobre karty a hrat ich agresivne, nikto si nevsime ze hras kazdu 20-tu ruku a aj tak ti tvoje esa preplatia, hlavne nebluffovat

ked hras takuto shorstack strategiu (ak ti je to milsie alebo mas maly bankroll) tak treba zo stola odist ked mas 2-3 nasobok toho cim sa buyinujes - ked uz tak treba hrat shorstack disciplinovane :)

njn...heh len je to take pokusenie..ked som tam aml takeho maniaka...no kukal som ho este asik hodinu..nakoniec prisiel chlapik s 10 USD buy inom a ozebral ho a potom odisiel....ale best..manik dokupil asik 5 uSD a nechapem ako ale opat to vytiahol na asik 50...ja som sa tam pri pohalde anto proste supoval...:-D

..presne ako hovori yegon, to co pises ma malu chybycku a to, ze sice zacnes hrat short stack, ale akonahle zdvoj az ztrojnasobis, ides od stola ;) ..v opacnom pripade uz nehras shortstack, Ty si dokonca pisal, ze tu poslednu ruku s KK si hral s 20$ a to uz teda ziadny shortstack neni, to je uz 2x max. buy-in na NL10 ;) ..ale hraj ako Ti to vyhovuje, nikde nie je napisane, ze musis hrat presne podla nejakych pravidiel. Ja napriklad pri shorstacku uz nehram len najsilnejsie ruky (AA, KK, QQ, JJ, AK a s late position AQ, AJ a TT) , ale aj stredne pary a ine kombinacie v zavislosti od situacie pri stole a readu na urcitych hracov :)

fajn ze sa rozbehla diskusia o shortstack hre:)
tie startovne kombinacie su ako pise keso,plus podla agresivity hracov a pozicie sa mierne prisposobuju:
pri tight stole je kombinacii viac,pri agresivnom stole cakat len na najlepsie

tiez mam skusenost,ze prve 1-2 all-iny vsetci zlozia,ale pri tretom alebo stvrtom uz niekto strati nervy a dorovna-preto tam uz idem do toho len s monsters

ja ked zdvojnasobim stack,tak idem od stola;
ale samozrejme cakam kym na mna vyjdu blindy a ak medzitym by prislo KK tak to by som sa snazil ist preflop all-in aj s dvojnasobnym stackom