ides s nim :)

to ci hrat kombo draw tak ako to hra on je asi dost jednoznacne aspon teda podla mojho nazoru

vsetky jeho outs su vekmi zjavne takze implied odds na call by mal len proti ultrazlemu superovi ktory s nim pojde do konca s lubovolnym esom nezavisle na tom ci pride na turne a riveri

teda ostava mu fold/push no a ak ma 45%+ equity tak easy push

(neviem preco, pocit, gamble?) a otocil T6 spades...kazdopadne viem si lahko predstavit ako by mu to tam doskaklo a ako by soms a netesil..:)..to su take rozhodnutia na hrane a nezazivam ich tak casto preto potrva, kym sa to rozlozi v long run, ze ano?
a teda z jeho pohladu je spravne pushnut a z mojho callnut?ci mi uz dnes nemysli?:D

ale mysli :)

z jeho pohladu je spravne pushnut lebo vie ze ak trafi flush alebo pride J tak mu allin nepreplatis

z tvojho pohladu je spravne dorovnat lebo moze mat kopec ruk ktore bijes a to neratam len combodraws ale aj veci ako KQ, Ax a pod.

on pushuje, lebo keby to hitol normalne, ma z toho malo $..takze musi verit svojim outs a shippnut to tam..takto bud ziska nejakde dead money alebo call(co chce) a bude dufat..

pre mna je spravne ho callnut, lebo ma toho dost, JQ/QQ atd nepravdepodobne..a tym ze on to 'musi' pushnut tiez som donuteny hrat tymto stylom.
priznam sa, to , ze pre nas oboch je to 'profitable', ma matie, nepride mi to hlavne matematicky 'ciste', vies co myslim, paralela s nulovym suctom alebo tak..kde menej inde musi byt viac, statisticky..
ale uz s tym otravujem pridlho, dik moc:)

praveze super temicka...ty si teraz vlastne na tej druhej strane ako som bol ja )par postov pred tvojimi)...s tym ze ty mas hotovu ruku a super ma draws. Myslim, ze mne je tu uz jasne...s draw ist do All inu len vtedy ak som proti nitovi, ked som proti dementovi call podla odds.

Ak by niekoho zaujimali tie moje ruky...1. ruka...super call a ukazal AJ, mne prisla na turn 8 (hotova str8)

2. ruka :-))) ani nechcite vediet:-))) pf raisor otocil QQ a mne ...na turn 6 a river 4. Tak stva sa aj to.

Druha vec je...ja v podstate reprezentujem mojim ch/r silnu ruku, minimalne to KX...ja predpokladam, ze ma TT+, AK...ja reprezentujem K9s+,KJo+...to mam 55:45. Ja viem ze su to somariny, ale v podtsate super urobil EV- rozhodnutie. Mam to stazene o dalsieho supera, ale ten len dorovnal, cize nie je uplne najsilnejsi.

Same ja, ja , ja...ja viem...ja som narcis:-)

Takze, kdyz nikdo nic, tak tu dam vysledek ;-)

APminer: raises 18235 to 22485 and is all-in
JANITOR 7: folds
andrej1984: calls 7085 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (11150) returned to APminer
*** FLOP *** [8d 9h 3s]
*** TURN *** [8d 9h 3s] [Qh]
*** RIVER *** [8d 9h 3s Qh] [4d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
andrej1984: shows [Kh Kd] (a pair of Kings)
APminer: shows [Qc Qs] (three of a kind, Queens)
APminer collected 21385 from side pot
Coyocath: shows [Ad As] (a pair of Aces)
APminer collected 3730 from main pot
APminer said, "yes"
itoustef1 is connected
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 25115 Main pot 3730. Side pot 21385. | Rake 0
Board [8d 9h 3s Qh 4d]
Seat 1: drücifer (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: heitzer36 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: andrej1984 (big blind) showed [Kh Kd] and lost with a pair of Kings
Seat 4: APminer showed [Qc Qs] and won (25115) with three of a kind, Queens
Seat 5: Coyocath showed [Ad As] and lost with a pair of Aces
Seat 6: JANITOR 7 folded before Flop
Seat 7: JackSpence folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Frodejonny folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: snafu-v folded before Flop (didn't bet)

mel jsem citaka, tak jsem to pushnul a kupodivu mi to vyslo, i kdyz po flopu jsem si zacal nadavat :)

P****Stars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com



saw flop | saw showdown



UTG ($20.40)

UTG+1 ($13.30)

MP1 ($10.15)

MP2 ($10)

MP3 ($1.90)

CO ($8.45)

Button ($10.30)

SB ($8.95)

Hero (BB) ($9.90)



Preflop: Hero is BB with K, K

UTG raises to $0.20, 7 folds, Hero raises to $0.60, UTG calls $0.40



Flop: ($1.25) 4, 9, K (2 players)

Hero bets $0.70, UTG calls $0.70



Turn: ($2.65) Q (2 players)

Hero bets $2.20, UTG calls $2.20



River: ($7.05) J (2 players)

Hero bets $6.40 (All-In), UTG calls $6.40



Total pot: $19.85 | Rake: $0.95


je ten push na riveri ok aj ked sa zvysila moznost postupky? pripadne ine chyby v priebehu handy?

*THUMBS UP*

ak sa dostal s nejakou desinou az na river tak ho behom pol hodky aj tak vyberies :)

nedavam sem tie ruky ze sa chalim aky som kok:D, ale aby sme sa poucili, ti, ktorym to treba

***** Pacific Hand History for Game 69130750 *****
$0.13/$0.25 Blinds No Limit Hold'em - *** 10 01 13:28:56 2008
Table MacTarnahans (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: deepluck ( $26.67 )
Seat 5: palto114 ( $13.94 )
Seat 6: sigmarr ( $9.5 )
Seat 7: lapiovra74 ( $18.02 )
Seat 9: PSRodriguez ( $24.26 )
Seat 10: RingmAAs ( $41.04 )
sigmarr posts small blind [$0.12].
lapiovra74 posts big blind [$0.25].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to deepluck [ Ac As ]
PSRodriguez calls [$0.25].
RingmAAs raises [$0.75].
deepluck raises [$2.54].
palto114 folds.
sigmarr folds.
lapiovra74 calls [$2.29].
PSRodriguez folds.
RingmAAs calls [$1.79].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 2d, Ks, 8d ]
lapiovra74 checks.
RingmAAs checks.
deepluck bets [$6].
lapiovra74 calls [$6].
RingmAAs folds.
** Dealing Turn ** [ 3d ]
lapiovra74 checks.
deepluck bets [$18.13].
lapiovra74 calls [$9.48].
** Dealing River ** [ Jd ]
** Summary **
deepluck shows [ Ac As ].
lapiovra74 shows [ Ad 4d ].
deepluck collected [$8.65].
lapiovra74 collected [$37.01].

otazka je, ci to tam uz shippnut, ako ja, ked mame skoro polku v pote, aj ked vieme, myslime si, ze svoju vysnenu flush za nearly pot bet trafil..alebo to foldnut a usetrit..;)

zase nejaka ta matika a tak;)