Zeltzn: suhlasim s tvojim reasoningom, ale skor by som inklinoval coldcallnut AA resp. AK, pretoze dominujeme vela Ax hand ktore ma fish a sa mi to bude hrat lahko. KK tu ja hram straightforward, lebo predsa nechceme vsetky monstre slowplayovat a na wet a Axx flopoch budeme 3way dost strateni. Inak ale nechapem tvojej poznamke o checku rega, ved hadam chceme vacsinu boardov donkovat v 3way potoch s fish za nami nie?

Wizdo: ja ne3betujem ale 4betujem, sizing neviem no, davam mu priestor na light 5bet bluff. A nesuhlasim,ze callne 100 percent svojej 3bet range. Skor si je vedomy, ze KQ,AJ,AQ ruky dost neprijemne dominujem ak neni, tak easy money

ondoko napísal:Wizdo: ja ne3betujem ale 4betujem, sizing neviem no, davam mu priestor na light 5bet bluff. A nesuhlasim,ze callne 100 percent svojej 3bet range. Skor si je vedomy, ze KQ,AJ,AQ ruky dost neprijemne dominujem ak neni, tak easy money

jj je to 4B...
hmm takže bude 3B semi/blufovať so sizingom 3,2x? ak áno, tak ok...
Ja si myslím, že ako si napísal AJ,AQ a spol foldne, občas callne 88,99 ...ale ruky od TT+,AK zaplatia aj viacej a podľa mňa skorej dostaneš veľký 5B push, lebo nebudú chcieť callovať...

Zeltzn napísal:ak na MP bola fish, tak by som to coldcallol pre. v tychto spotoch by som skor rozsiril cold4bet bluffing range

Suhlasim, ja by som tu coldcalloval asi uplne vsetky value handy, s ktorymi chcem pokracovat a cold4betoval len bluffy. Je to brutalne imbalanced, ale vobec by mi to nevadilo v tomto spote pretoze ten reg(/nit) tam pravdepodobne nikdy nebude fightovat back proti tomu cold4betu.

Wizdo, tie sizingy su uplne standardne a vacsina regov moc 4bety necalluje, hlavne na nizsich stakes.

tak oktober zacal podobne ako september vo "velkom" style a zas to musim jak chuj dobiehat odohrane na NL50 vacsinou..asi zacnem vypustat zaciatky mesiacov alebo co inak som ale zistil velky leak v mojej hre a tym bolo hranie 4 zoom stolov... bolo to na mna vela a hral som roboticky.. teraz hram 3, rozmyslam nad kazdym spotom a aj graf zacina podla toho vyzerat viacmenej som s 3 stolmi zacal, ked som bol najviac down. asi aj dam svoju prvu platinu v zivote tento mesiac (a to som asi 10 dni nehral kvoli malemu Eurotripu ), tak si davam tymto zavazok buduci rok uhrat Supernovu



inak funny vec sa mi dnes stala na prednaske.. cital som si na notebooku pokerportal a vedla mna sediaci Estonec sa ma pyta, ze ci hram poker a co cert nechcel vyklul sa z neho NL200 reg na staroch nechcel mi ale povedat nick, tak ho budem musiet zobrat asi pit, nech to z neho vymamim

good luck vsetkym

Za tento príspevok od ondoko poďakovali - 4:

1886er, haman, nabokow, Napolleon

som noob, neviem ako sa zaklada nova tema, tak to hodim sem hadam to nezapadne prachom.

NL50 zoom KQs second nut flush turn decision 180BB deep

Poker Stars $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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BTN: $92.94 19/15 na vzorke 17k hrac postflop agg factor 1.9, cize celkom passiv 3bet na BTN 4.5
SB: $50.28
BB: $186.03
UTG: $23.43 fishka
Hero (MP): $87.30
CO: $50.00

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is MP with K Q
UTG raises to $1.50, Hero calls $1.50, 1 fold, BTN calls $1.50, 2 folds

range BTN nieco ako: 22-TT,ATs-AJs,AJo, KTs-KQs, KJo-KQo a vsetky suited connectory. suited one gappery asi nie
range fish: ATC

Flop: ($5.25) 5 9 4 (3 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $3.50, BTN raises to $9.50, UTG folds, Hero calls $6

flop standard si myslim, asi by som tu uplne nerad dorovnaval shove so 2nd nut flush za 190BB. BTN range po flope:55,44,99,AJdd,ATdd,JTdd,78dd,67dd. nie je natolko thinking, aby to robil s Adx si myslim


Turn: ($24.25) 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $15.50, Hero ???

zla karta pre mna, znizuje to sice pocet komb FH, ale ak setol na flope, som dead, porazam na turne teda len JTdd,78dd,67dd.. easy fold teda? na nesparovanom boarde som to chcel calldownut.

flop std, dufam, ze si ani nerozmyslal nad 3betom na F. Ja calldownujem, resp urcite nefoldujem na T. Ste mega deep a on ma priestor na to, aby na teba vyvyjal tlak a ty rozmyslas o folde? dokonca na T? To si myslis, ze na NL50 nikto nebluffuje?

Zeltzn napísal:flop std, dufam, ze si ani nerozmyslal nad 3betom na F

no ak by sme boli 100BB tak mu to poslem na flope, ma tonu horsieho nez ja na flope..any worse flush nezahodi a zrejme ani set

Zeltzn napísal: Ja calldownujem, resp urcite nefoldujem na T. Ste mega deep a on ma priestor na to, aby na teba vyvyjal tlak a ty rozmyslas o folde? dokonca na T? To si myslis, ze na NL50 nikto nebluffuje?

blafuje blafuje coby nie


3way ale malokto blafuje resp. skoro nikto (teda mam na mysli, nie flop typu ze sme na BTN precheckuje sa k nam flop Q25 rainbow a ten bluffbetneme) a nie tento passiv nit (raise cbet flop 12 IP, OOP 11), mu to tam zrazu ryba posle a moze sa poondit akurat.. skor ma zaujimal thinking proces nad rangami, ze viacmenej so 2nd nut flush porazame realne len 3 komba... aaa na riveri 8d len jedno

Ten turn je close, ale call bude asi ok s tym, ze by som velmi pravdepodobne giveupoval any river.Proti celej jeho valuerange na tom nebudes vobec dobre na turne, ale zase si nemyslim, ze bude az tak casto raisovat nuts flush na flope, takze ak discountneme nejake nut flushe tak by to malo vychadzat na call. K tym combam, ktore realne moze mat a ktore porazas by som este pridal Td8d.

Zeltzn napísal:Ste mega deep a on ma priestor na to, aby na teba vyvyjal tlak a ty rozmyslas o folde? dokonca na T? To si myslis, ze na NL50 nikto nebluffuje?

Myslim, ze toto je spot, ktory skoro nikto bluffovat nebude (3way mono flop s fishou in to dost vylucuje) a uz vobec by som to necakal od 19/15 hraca.

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ondoko

tak P****Stars mi zapol godmode celkom slusny heater no, graf od stvrtku


som dnes 4krat flopol quads a piaty raz na turne sice iba raz poriadne zaplatene, ale asi by som chcel moc

nejake handy

1. proti regovi

Poker Stars $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2334033
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Hero (BTN): $54.34
SB: $48.88
BB: $50.75
UTG: $56.04
MP: $33.03
CO: $110.50

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BTN with Q A
3 folds, Hero raises to $1, 1 fold, BB raises to $3.75, Hero calls $2.75

Flop: ($7.75) 6 4 6 (2 players)
BB bets $4, Hero calls $4

Turn: ($15.75) 2 (2 players)
BB bets $10, Hero calls $10

River: ($35.75) 5 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Final Pot: $35.75
Hero shows Q A (a pair of Sixes - Ace kicker)
BB shows 9 T (a pair of Sixes)
Hero wins $34.14
(Rake: $1.61)

2.proti slabsiemu regovi

Poker Stars $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2334034
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BTN: $118.92
SB: $69.84
BB: $50.00
UTG: $53.57
MP: $61.47
Hero (CO): $106.19

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is CO with A 4
2 folds, Hero raises to $1.25, 2 folds, BB raises to $4, Hero calls $2.75

Flop: ($8.25) 3 6 Q (2 players)
BB bets $5, Hero calls $5

Turn: ($18.25) Q (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $10, BB calls $10

River: ($38.25) 4 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $36.50, BB folds

Final Pot: $38.25
Hero mucks A 4
Hero wins $36.53
(Rake: $1.72)

3.proti regovi

Poker Stars $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2333881
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Hero (BTN): $54.80
SB: $88.72
BB: $61.98
UTG: $230.31
MP: $147.37
CO: $65.48

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BTN with 3 A
3 folds, Hero raises to $1, 1 fold, BB raises to $3.75, Hero calls $2.75

Flop: ($7.75) Q 6 6 (2 players)
BB bets $5, Hero calls $5

Turn: ($17.75) 6 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $9, BB folds

Final Pot: $17.75
Hero mucks 3 A
Hero wins $16.95
(Rake: $0.80)

4. prvy podareny 5bet light

Poker Stars $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2334035
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BTN: $79.27
Hero (SB): $130.14
BB: $62.15
UTG: $34.08
MP: $54.03
CO: $63.32

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is SB with Q A
2 folds, CO raises to $1.25, 1 fold, Hero raises to $5, 1 fold, CO raises to $10.50, Hero raises to $17.90, 1 fold

Final Pot: $21.50
Hero mucks Q A
Hero wins $21.50

5. dobry odhad, ze ma bluffcatchne

Poker Stars $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2334036
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BTN: $67.31
SB: $50.75
BB: $50.00
UTG: $50.75
MP: $50.00
Hero (CO): $109.68

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is CO with K K
2 folds, Hero raises to $1.25, 2 folds, BB raises to $4.50, Hero raises to $9, BB calls $4.50

Flop: ($18.25) 8 7 9 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $9.50, BB calls $9.50

Turn: ($37.25) 5 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $35.50, BB calls $31.50 all in

River: ($100.25) T (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $100.25
BB shows 8 A (a pair of Eights)
Hero shows K K (a pair of Kings)
Hero wins $97.75
(Rake: $2.50)

6. povodeny spewtard

Poker Stars $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2334038
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BTN: $15.64
SB: $27.08
BB: $50.00
UTG: $83.79
MP: $94.14
Hero (CO): $50.00

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is CO with J J
2 folds, Hero raises to $1.25, 2 folds, BB calls $0.75

Flop: ($2.75) 5 3 T (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.50, BB raises to $5, Hero calls $3.50

Turn: ($12.75) Q (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $4, BB raises to $12, Hero calls $8

River: ($36.75) 6 (2 players)
BB bets $29.50, Hero calls $29.50

Final Pot: $95.75
BB shows J A (high card Ace)
Hero shows J J (a pair of Jacks)
Hero wins $93.25
(Rake: $2.50)

7. proti agrosemiregovi/semifish

Poker Stars $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2334039
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Hero (BTN): $51.11
SB: $25.64
BB: $58.11
UTG: $52.15
MP: $48.93
CO: $89.81

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BTN with T Q
UTG raises to $1, 2 folds, Hero calls $1, 2 folds

Flop: ($2.75) 7 T 2 (2 players)
UTG bets $2, Hero calls $2

Turn: ($6.75) 7 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $4, UTG raises to $12, Hero calls $8

River: ($30.75) K (2 players)
UTG bets $17.50, Hero calls $17.50

Final Pot: $65.75
Hero shows T Q (two pair, Tens and Sevens)
UTG shows 5 4 (a pair of Sevens)
Hero wins $63.25
(Rake: $2.50)

tak vyzera to tak, ze je po heateri, dnes ma to f*ckovalo z kazdej strany

1. proti agroregovi, zjavne ma ma v zuboch. nepomohol mi ani read, ze silno 4betuje slabe handy

2. setup

3. a opat flopnuty flush je malo

4.celkom prekvapko, cakal som esa


5. "top" handa mesiaca



atd atd, ani sa mi to sem nechce vsetko davat. celkom prekvapeny som nakoniec ostal, ze som ostal dole len 2BI aspon som si Platinu uhral a clearol 200$ bonusik hrat sa mi FPP satelity tentokrat nechce, radsej si dam zavtedy normalnu session. kazdopadne, mam pocit, ze NL50 uz crushujem. sa mi zda, ze uz mi aj dava vacsina regov pokoj a ne3betuju ma nonstop,cize super ak sa mi podari v najblizsich dnoch spravit 6-7BI, tak si shotnem asi aj NL100 cashoutovat nepotrebujem, datamined handy by som na to mal, cize preco neskusit

oktobrovy graf teda so far:


good luck