hej aj mna to napadlo ale nechapem preco ale v tej chvili som sa zlakol flushu keby dosiel na river lebo som mal pocit ze ma flushdraw neviem preco ale taky pocit som mal... ale to je riziko toho ked sa slowplayuje

poker nie je o tom vyhravat s AA ale o prisposobovani sa situacii na stole, ty si sa prisposobil tym ze si s AA raisol menej, podla mna ovela zaujimavejsi sposob prisposobenia sa je raisovat na 4xBB kazdu ruku ked si BTN alebo CO - ver mi ze po par kolach by sa superom rozprudila krv a nemusel by si sa bat ze tvoje AA nikto nedorovna :)

yegon, myslis ze taky pravidelny raise je aplikovatelny aj na turnajoch? =-O:-$:-$

doteraz som si myslel ze kradnutie blindov od slabych hracov je zaklad turnajovej hry :)

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check na flope je ok povedal by som ze uplne standard i ked lepsiemu superovi jasne povie aku mas ruku (AK by betlo flop, sem tam slowplayujeme monster, ale najcastejsie mame TT,JJ )

ten river je dost kamikadze, je pravda ze dalsie Q nam pomaha lebo jednak je menej pravdepodobne ze ho ma super a zaroven aj superovi je jasne ze sa tym znizuje pravdepodobnost ze Q mame my.

Na zaklade nasej hry si super moze byt skoro isty ze mame par mensi ako Q preto zrejme ten bluffraise - ak si mal takyto read (3-level viem co si super mysli ze mam a ako to vyuzije) ze super ta bluffraisne tak super zahrate ale to sa mi az tak nezda :)

valuebet je hodne tenky, ja som za check behind. Ak nas super cita na par mensi ako Q tak nemoze dorovnat lebo jediny par co bije je 88.

btw nepaci sa mi ani ten bluffraise supera, zrejme nas dobre necital lebo podla mna repujeme QQ+ a nikdy mu to nefoldneme - horsie by sme nemali valuebetovat a po tom ako dorovnal turn ho nebudeme na riveri bluffovat

ja by som na takomto flope check/reraisol aj AK aj TT aj JJ

river by som dorovnal tiez, foldol by som len keby dorazilo A alebo K

hitnuta trojica supera je u mna nieco podobne ako hitnuty set. beriem to ako ze mas jednoducho smolu a neostava ti nic len dobit :)

Q si mylim, ze by super niekde v priebehu partie betol, skor by som sa bal KK alebo AA

ja by som to hral nejak tak podobne, mozno trochu bety by sa lisili

TEXAS_HOLDEM, NO_LIMIT, P4-71185783-51
played at \\\"Kapstadt\\\" for USD RM from 2008-07-02 10:37 until 2008-07-02 10:38



Seat 1: edus_lt ($23.07 in chips)
Seat 2: imilian123 ($1.85 in chips)
Seat 4: yannickerdel ($13.10 in chips)
Seat 5: VLCISKO[ QC,KS ] ($9.94 in chips)
Seat 7: samminer ($8.09 in chips)
Seat 8: Prest2 ($9.50 in chips)
Seat 9: LuckyRicardo ($6.85 in chips)
Seat 10: felixZzy ($14.52 in chips)



ANTES/BLINDS
yannickerdel posts blind ($0.05), vlcisko posts blind ($0.10).

PRE-FLOP
samminer folds, Prest2 folds, LuckyRicardo folds, felixZzy calls $0.10, edus_lt calls $0.10, imilian123 folds, yannickerdel calls $0.05, vlcisko checks.

FLOP [board cards: 8D,QS,3S ]
yannickerdel checks, vlcisko bets $0.40, felixZzy folds, edus_lt calls $0.40, yannickerdel bets $0.80, vlcisko calls $0.40, edus_lt folds.

TURN [board cards: 8D,QS,3S,JS ]
yannickerdel bets $2.40, vlcisko[ QC,KS ]...???

Tu ma zaujima, ci mam dorovnat. Resp. odds na call nemam ak ratam 9 oust na flush. Otazka je, ci mam pocitat aj s dalsimi 6 outami a K a Q.
Ale celkovo aj ked nemam flush odds na call, tak moje implied odds su dost vysoke, kedze je full stack. Sice som si uz asi odpovedal na otazku, ale aj tak vdaka za nazor.

TATO HANDA JE ZAUJIMAVEJSIA. TAKZE DOROVNAT, CI NIE?

TEXAS_HOLDEM, NO_LIMIT, P4-71164634-538
played at \\\"Kortrijk\\\" for USD RM from 2008-07-02 11:05 until 2008-07-02 11:07



Seat 1: FACEX100PRE ($2.22 in chips)
Seat 3: PokerDemon- ($5.37 in chips)
Seat 4: Belthazaur ($11.30 in chips)
Seat 5: xAMSOx ($10.15 in chips)
Seat 6: kuberaplus ($9.55 in chips)
Seat 7: felixZzy ($9.85 in chips)
Seat 8: VLCISKO[ 9H,TH ] ($16.97 in chips)
Seat 9: imilian123 ($1.80 in chips)
Seat 10: manuhou ($8.43 in chips)



ANTES/BLINDS
vlcisko posts blind ($0.05), imilian123 posts blind ($0.10).

PRE-FLOP
manuhou folds, FACEX100PRE folds, PokerDemon- folds, Belthazaur folds, xAMSOx folds, kuberaplus calls $0.10, felixZzy folds, vlcisko calls $0.05, imilian123 checks.

FLOP [board cards: AS,QC,JH ]
vlcisko bets $0.30, imilian123 folds, kuberaplus calls $0.30.

TURN [board cards: AS,QC,JH,8S ]
vlcisko bets $1, kuberaplus calls $1.

RIVER [board cards: AS,QC,JH,8S,AD ]
vlcisko bets $1.50, kuberaplus bets $8.15 and is all-in, vlcisko[ 9H,TH ]...???

Cauec,

1 handa : Ja QK raisuju PF, ale hraju na 6-maxu resp. na 5-maxu, takze to je jina........nicmene takhle kdyz si to checknul, tak je blbost aby si hral v unraisnutem potu o stack ( myslim, ze by te stejne pushnul na riveru nebo alespon by tam anhodil nejakych 5, coz je pro tebe skoro All IN ), takze pro me easy fold

2 handa : Tady bych taky zahodil a putnul bych ho na KT, s tim jak to zahral ( na techto microstakes vetsina hracu slowplayuje jak jen muzou a nechaji se re-drawnout, coz je imo velka chyba ) , takze opet pro me fold ... Navic hrozi i boat - fullhouse ... Nicmene te taky mohl light callovat s weak Ace a napalit river s tripsem... spis bych se ale priklonil k prvni variante a to Nuts str8...

Obema tema foldama nic nezkazis, na techto limitech opravdu nema moc cenu callovat marginal spoty, spis pockat na nejakou lepsi kombinaci

To je asi vsechno :)

..snad len s vynimkou toho, ze by som ho nedal na KT, skor by som ho dal na nejake KQ a na river sa to snazi ublufovat na to eso, pripadne to eso drzi ale nema FH, v najhorsom by som mu uveril A8. Mam z toho taky ocit, ze ho bijes, ale ako napisal BarvyMAN, foldom nic nepokazis a mozes si pockat na citatelnejsiu situaciu.
..yo a prva handa easy fold.